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Posted on 21-03-2010 11:23
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 who can help me identifly it ?
only a specimen from Yunnan,southern China.
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 who can help me identify it?
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 who can help me identify it?
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 who can help me identifly it?
but the picture is not clear.
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 I guess it is a Diopsidae, but which genus?
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 otitid perhaps?
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 Or Diopsidae ?

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 thanks, my friend. But it dSmileoesn't belong to Diospidae.
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 Thinking along the line of Periscelididae but unfortunately I don't have any reference works covering the Oriental region here... Can you a manage a clearer view of the wing venation?
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 I am very curious then what family it is!
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Nikita Vikhrev
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 Paul seems right, probably Periscelididae. Last year I collected 2 specimens of this or very near flies in Thailand, Surat Thani prov, on shadow vegetation under small silty brook.
I gave its to Andrey Ozerv, but he currently interesting nothing exept Scathophogidae. Andrey, am I right or not?
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 Maybe Drosophilidae, something like Mulgravea asiatica (Okada, 1964)? Of similarities, lateral dark spots on mesonotum match quite well.
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 I have not been able to locate an image of Mulgravea on the net (at least in the image search) and my papers do not cover the genus. The images above are not nearly clear enough to show the head setae, but either that or the wing venation should make things a lot clearer.
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 I took another series of photos,
wing C with two broken, anal nearly absent,
male genetalia: tips with a row of smallblack teeth
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 male genetalia
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 I check the key ,maybe Drosophilidae
give my sincere thanks to everyone here.
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 Black, I think you are right in Mulgravea (though I cannot see the chracteristic drosophilid fronto-orbaital setae), but it certainly is not asiatica, as that should have a completely black abdomen. None of the other species have been reported from China. De & Gupta (1995) described four species from Bhutan, but none of these fits the images above. The only remaining species described form the Asian continent ranipoorensis from India is a no-fit, too. Closest appears to be neoasiatica from the Malaysian Peninsula. So, might well be a new species. Grin
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