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Neomochtherus geniculatus? Tolmerus cowini or cingulatus
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Posted on 25-01-2021 22:55
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I photographed this Asilidae near the little village of Condove in Susa Valley, Piedmont (Italy) at 350 mt above sea level, on September 9th, 2018. Could it be Neomochtherus geniculatus?
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This is not N. geniculatus..... first impression would be Tolmerus cingulatus or cowini, but that doesn't feel right too.Shock
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Ok thanks! So it is not possible to determine even the genus, it isn't?
 
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Just asking: what's wrong with Tolmerus cowini?
 
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piros wrote:
Just asking: what's wrong with Tolmerus cowini?


I'm also interested about it Wink
 
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In the first place it is very rare and not known from Italy. Sometimes cingulatus can be somewhat darker. To be sure a look at the femora in good light would help.
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Great thanks! Unfortunately these are the only photos I have, I've tried to crop the first one but I'm afraid it is useless...
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This is what a true cowini looks like: https://waarneming.nl/observation/69895445/
So, this could be it, but I would keep a cf and look for more specimens.
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Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

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Great thanks! Apart from cingulatus and cowini, are there other Tolmerus species that could be possible?
 
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I don't think so......
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Ok, great thanks!
 
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