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Eccoptomera -> E. longiseta
Carnifex
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Posted on 19-10-2020 22:23
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Is this Eccoptomera filata? If I understood correctly, E. longiseta should have a red-brown third antennal segment, which I don't see here, so I went for a different species. But there are other species I don't know how they look like.

Vienna, mid October

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This is the Austrian species list:
Eccoptomera emarginata
Eccoptomera filata
Eccoptomera infuscata
Eccoptomera longiseta
Eccoptomera microps
Eccoptomera obscura
Eccoptomera ornata
Eccoptomera pallescens
Eccoptomera sanmartini
Edited by Carnifex on 22-10-2020 21:20
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Yep! It should be E. longiseta Wink

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(The material of "Suilia in winter" is finally in my hands..).
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences
 
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Andrzej wrote:
The material of "Suilia in winter" is finally in my hands..).


Grin
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Posted on 20-10-2020 09:27
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Coming back to this specimen, my ID is solely based on a 1932 paper, regarding the statement that longiseta has a 'red-brown 3rd antennal segment'. I would call the color here rather yellow or light-brown. In the gallery, both species seem to have darker antennae then my specimen, but don't know whether these are light effects.
Any key for this genus available?
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In seiner Monographie der Helomyziden Czerny (1924) schreibt:
"Fühler entweder ganz rotgelb oder das dritte Glied in verschiedener Ausdehnung gebräunt" Wink
dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences
 
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Great, I now worked with his monography and used chaetotaxy instead of color descriptions. Can confirm E. longiseta.
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Posted on 23-10-2020 14:05
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dr. A. J. Woznica, Institute of Environmental Biology, Wroclaw University of Environmental & Life Sciences
 
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