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Phaonia to ID--> Phaonia valida
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Phaonia (Rui Andrade det) on a vehicle (Iberia:Catalonia: Girona: Beuda, 14/10/2020). Is possible to know the species?
- Presutural acrostichals represented by fine hairs only
- Legs reddish and black
- Arista plumose
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Looks like Phaonia valida, but I’m not sure about similar species in your country.
Best wishes, Niels-Jan Dek
 
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There are a lot, but all of them are included in Gregor et al 2002 key.:
Phaonia palpata (Stein, 1897)
Phaonia scutellata (Zetterstedt, 1845)
Phaonia serva (Meigen, 1826)
Phaonia rufipalpis (Macquart, 1835)
Phaonia rufiventris (Scopoli, 1763)
Phaonia subventa (Harris, 1780)
Phaonia tuguriorum (Scopoli, 1763)
Phaonia valida (Harris, 1780)
Phaonia trimaculata (Bouché, 1834)
Phaonia zugmayeriae (Schnabl, 1888)
Phaonia villana Robineau-Desvoidy, 1830
Phaonia amabilis (Meigen, 1826)
Phaonia aeneiventris (Zetterstedt, 1845)
Phaonia bitincta (Rondani, 1866)
Phaonia cincta (Zetterstedt, 1846)
Phaonia exoleta (Meigen, 1826)
Phaonia errans (Meigen, 1826)
Phaonia mystica (Meigen, 1826)
Phaonia pratensis (Robineau-Desvoidy, 1830)
Phaonia pura (Loew, 1873)
Phaonia angelicae (Scopoli, 1763)
Phaonia consobrina (Zetterstedt, 1838)
Phaonia impura Zinoviev, 1987
Phaonia lugubris (Meigen, 1826)
Phaonia mediterranea Hennig, 1963
Phaonia meigeni Pont, 1986
Phaonia pallida (Fabricius, 1787)

Thanks anyway, I'll try with the keys and that is a good clue

Rafael
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[Gregor et al 2002]
Posterodorsal seta in distal third of hind tibia well developed.
Prosternum bare [not visible].
Mid tibia without anterodorsals.
Radial node bare [assumed, not observed]
Scutellum at least apically yellow or reddish.
Abdomen completely dark = with no yellow.
__Notopleuron without any hairs near base of posterior notopleural seta (no way)
Notopleuron with some hairs around posterior notopleural seta [difficult to see]
Mid and hind femora yellow.
__Katepimeron bare; crossveins strongly infuscated (no way)
Katepimeron haired [not visible]
Crossveins at most slightly infuscated.
Lower occipital setae partly reddish yellow.
Frontal triangle reaching middle of frons.
Vein M1 somewhat upcurved apically.
Sternite 1 bare.
Phaonia valida (Harris)
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P. valida is correct - I think this combination of characters is unique:

Lower occipital setae partly reddish yellow.
Vein M1 somewhat upcurved apically.

Greetings, Eric Kloeckner
 
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Thanks again!
 
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