Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Tachinidae from May - Phyto cingulata (Rhinophoridae)
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 11-10-2020 23:00
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South Norway, Telemark, 20.05.2020, 7,1 mm. Garden Morten A Mjelde attached the following image:  [300.61Kb] Edited by Morten A Mjelde on 15-10-2020 11:20 |
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 11-10-2020 23:01
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Posted on 11-10-2020 23:02
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Posted on 11-10-2020 23:03
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Posted on 11-10-2020 23:04
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 12-10-2020 07:04
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19317 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Doesn’t look like a Tachinidae. Current impression is a male of Phyto (Rhinophoridae) with narrow vertex, like Ph. similis or cingulata. That would be a spectacular find. * Check the shape of lower calypter * Check the “operculum” of the posterior spiracle = breathing opening ( just below base of wing). Do you have one large lid (check on any Tachinidae, or Calliphora) or just a bunch of hairs ( = Rhinophoridae). Theo |
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 12-10-2020 17:51
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Thanks! I think it has the lid thing, but you can see for yourself. .. Have tried to photograph lower calypter at different angles. Rosevinge Morten A Mjelde attached the following image:  [271.01Kb] |
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 12-10-2020 17:51
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Posted on 12-10-2020 17:52
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 13-10-2020 21:42
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Is it possible to go further with this?  Rosevinge |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 14-10-2020 06:58
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Yes ! First picture definitely show hairs on the edge on spiracle, but no obvious operculum. Strongly suggesting Rhinophoridae. Did you check the postscutellum ? Theo |
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 14-10-2020 11:12
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yes, typically Rhinophorid postscutellum I would say.... so is it Phyto? Morten A Mjelde attached the following image:  [300.47Kb] |
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 14-10-2020 11:13
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-10-2020 07:29
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19317 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yeap, just slightly swollen, Definitely Rhinophoridae, hence definitely Phyto. Great find !! |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-10-2020 07:36
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19317 Joined: 21.07.04 |
So, it is most definitely a male Phyto cingulata ! Very rare species, or at least little seen. It is known from several localities in Sweden, including the type by Zetterstedt. I have no idea if it has been recorded previously from Norway. Please submit to the gallery ! Theo |
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| Morten A Mjelde |
Posted on 15-10-2020 11:18
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Thanks a lot! Can not see that there are any finds of this, but the species name is included in the Norwegian reporting system - so maybe it is in an old collection ... Rosevinge |
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