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 small black flies from China
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| loepa |
Posted on 09-11-2007 10:57
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 Member Location: SW-China Posts: 268 Joined: 06.04.07 |
Oct 28, 2007 SW-China about 2mm loepa attached the following image:  [69.29Kb] Loepa http://www.insect... |
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| loepa |
Posted on 09-11-2007 10:59
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| loepa |
Posted on 09-11-2007 11:00
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loepa attached the following image:  [87.37Kb] Loepa http://www.insect... |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 09-11-2007 11:19
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19229 Joined: 11.05.04 |
First though was Lauxaniidae, but 2 mm is small and the behaviou appears to be atypical. I was wondering about Camillidae... Did you collect some that you can send? Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 09-11-2007 20:09
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2125 Joined: 24.07.04 |
This certainly doesn't belong to the family Lauxaniidae, since there seems to be at least one costal break. It does look like a Camillidae, but are there Camillidae with such an elongate third antennal segment?
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 09-11-2007 21:03
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9223 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I think it may be Ephydridae, I've seen something alike in Thailand. Is it yours, Tony? Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image:  [101.26Kb] Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 09-11-2007 21:09 Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 09-11-2007 21:30
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Mmmm.. I looked at Loepa's pictures and decided to keep quiet for while. The similarity to your specimen (which I agree is Ephydridae) is due to convergent evolution - apart from being small, black and shiny, the elongate antennae are the only thing they share. Head shape, body shape and (especially) posture are all different. The posture of Loepa's flies bothers me most - no self-respecting ephydrid would ever wander around in that ridiculous way.  Camillidae seems like a good bet to me. Someone with access to a good world acalypterate collection should be able to spot this one. Are you awake, yet Steve? Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| loepa |
Posted on 10-11-2007 14:39
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Member Location: SW-China Posts: 268 Joined: 06.04.07 |
many thanks! I post some more photos now. loepa attached the following image:  [132.07Kb] Loepa http://www.insect... |
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| loepa |
Posted on 10-11-2007 14:40
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loepa attached the following image:  [119.41Kb] Loepa http://www.insect... |
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| loepa |
Posted on 10-11-2007 14:41
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| loepa |
Posted on 10-11-2007 14:42
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| loepa |
Posted on 10-11-2007 14:42
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loepa attached the following image:  [65.93Kb] Loepa http://www.insect... |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-11-2007 14:47
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spectacular flies!! lucky you! I'd go for Camillidae as well.  |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 10-11-2007 20:19
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19229 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Send some specimens, PLEASE! 
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-11-2007 21:54
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Sometimes I asked myself: are we normal? And then, I see many flies pass over my head and follow them trying catch! |
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| loepa |
Posted on 12-11-2007 03:27
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Member Location: SW-China Posts: 268 Joined: 06.04.07 |
Thanks for all of you. Paul and Jorge, please look at PM. Loepa http://www.insect... |
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| loepa |
Posted on 12-11-2007 06:17
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loepa attached the following image:  [44.37Kb] Loepa http://www.insect... |
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| loepa |
Posted on 12-11-2007 06:18
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loepa attached the following image:  [38.92Kb] Loepa http://www.insect... |
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| loepa |
Posted on 12-11-2007 06:20
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loepa attached the following image:  [83.95Kb] Loepa http://www.insect... |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 12-11-2007 08:13
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19229 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I'll dive into the books again, tonight, with these images.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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but don't see the image in the post.