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Chloropidae with peculiar wings
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Posted on 19-08-2020 15:32
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Hi, could anyone please help ID this fly, please? The fly is about 3-4 mm and has a flat-face and the wings is very peculiar. It has some sort of macrotrichia and a short 'growth' UNDERSIDE of the wings. I have no idea about the habitat of the fly as I found it on my office desk last week.

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head and antennae
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dorsal view of wing
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ventral side of wing at close up - note the 'mactrotrichia' and the small structure on the underside of the wing.
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The small flexure in the cubital vein makes me suspect it is a chloropid. Check the frons as well, because that is not visible in the pictures.
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Thanks Paul for the lead. I attached another two images that may show the ocelar triangle a bit more.
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a more visible image for the size of ocelar triangle
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Chloropidae, Oscinellinae, male of the genus Tylopterna Bezzi,1917, surely an undescribed species and not T. monstrosum Bezzi,1917 known from the Phillipines. In Borneo and other parts of the Oriental Region occur several undescribed species which are under study. Females have no bulldozer-like flattened head/frons and no hollow extension on the wings looking like "normal" oscinellids. Males partly possess in addition dark and thickened spots on their wings, wings streched out in three dimensions. Certain species were fogged from the canopy of rainforest trees.
 
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Thanks - will discuss more about this later.

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