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Tabanidae: Tabanus? --> Tabanus sudeticus
Tina S
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Posted on 05-08-2020 05:03
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Hello,


could somebody tell from the photos which species I found?
It was ailing (collision with car or bike?), sitting on a bikeway.

Data: Germany, Lower Saxony, Rodenberg, ca. 70 m, 2 August 2020.

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Tina.
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Female T. sudeticus.
, our biggest horsefly.

Might be a traffic casualty, indeed.

Theo
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Hello Theo,

thank you very much! The horsefly was very large, indeed.

I'm struggling with the "brown eyes" Tabanus sudeticus should have. Are the eyes of my specimen only green due to light conditions (or the damage)? But they were green from all perspectives...

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Yes, the difference is very subtle and also depends on light.
In bovinus, it is all and only green.
In your first pic, there are some bronze tints.
Looking from above is the best way to get the bronze tint, also in Hybomitra.

That said, the identification is straightforword based on antennal shape and colour. By far the best (ie. most reliable and easier to spot) feature !

Theo
 
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Hello Theo!

In your first pic, there are some bronze tints.
Looking from above is the best way to get the bronze tint
Your are right, I see it now.

That said, the identification is straightforword based on antennal shape and colour. By far the best (ie. most reliable and easier to spot) feature !
Thanks for this!
Could you please explain or draw (or give me a link to) the antennal shape of our Tabanus species? Let's say, at least Tabanus sudetica and T. bovinus?

Best wishes,
Tina.
 
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What about

https://www.eis-nederland.nl/DesktopModules/Bring2mind/DMX/API/Entries/Download?command=core_download&entryid=807&language=nl-NL&PortalId=4&TabId=563
 
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Theo, a big thank you! It's a pity this apparently very detailed and deep work isn't written in English (but what are web translators for?). Nevertheless, the drawings are very helpful!

Best regards,
Tina.
 
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work in progress .....

Theo
 
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