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Tenthredinidae?
stober
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Posted on 19-06-2020 14:05
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Hello Smile
The picture from Poland. I suppose there is a sawfly from Tenthredinidae family, but I'm not sure. Moreover, maybe somebody know more detailed ID?
www.stonogi.pl/warsztaty/dipterainfo1.jpg
 
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Hello, it's an Ichneumonidae, female Pimplinae, I think - do have more photos of this one?

Eric
 
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Apparently not Tenthredinidae - too many antennal joints. Having seen only this one photo, I cannot exclude Apocrita: Aculeata.
 
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With some ???: Delomerista mandibularis (Ichneumonidae - Pimlinae - Delomeristini) - I will check...

Eric
 
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It seems exactly like here: https://www.commanster.eu/Commanster/Insects/Bees/SpBees/Delomerista.mandibularis.html But it is only one picture in all google Wink However it's definitely not Tenthredinidae. Thank you for help! Smile
 
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Hello,

stober wrote:
It seems exactly like here: https://www.commanster.eu/

caution! That website is not reliable. Many misidentications there.
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Jürgen

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That was what I was afraid of.


Juergen Peters wrote:
Hello,

stober wrote:
It seems exactly like here: https://www.commanster.eu/

caution! That website is not reliable. Many misidentications there.
 
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The problem with the identification is described on the commanster website itself, too:
https://www.comma...aveat.html
And it is never a good idea to rely on only one source - whatever you are searching for.
Pimplinae and even Delomerista mandibularis could be close but even if if you go back to Schmiedeknecht's Pimpla mandibularis you will not find a final answer in this case.
But anyhow we should continue to keep the eyes open.

Greetings, Eric
 
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