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 Apocrita wasp?
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| zcuc |
Posted on 28-10-2007 11:13
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Member Location: Israel Posts: 492 Joined: 08.10.07 |
Found this wasp on 22 June, Israel. Was dragging that paralyzed spider. zcuc attached the following image:  [28.38Kb] Edited by zcuc on 28-10-2007 11:18 |
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| zcuc |
Posted on 28-10-2007 11:15
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Member Location: Israel Posts: 492 Joined: 08.10.07 |
Here is another view.
zcuc attached the following image:  [97.95Kb] Edited by zcuc on 28-10-2007 11:27 |
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| zcuc |
Posted on 28-10-2007 11:27
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Member Location: Israel Posts: 492 Joined: 08.10.07 |
And a close look on the spider. It is also possible to identify it? zcuc attached the following image:  [78.01Kb] |
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| Christian Schmid-Egger |
Posted on 28-10-2007 12:04
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Member Location: Germany, Berlin Posts: 233 Joined: 05.08.05 |
Its a spider wasp (Pompilidae). What I can see from the wing venation, it may be the genus Tachyagetes. Species ID is not possible by the photo. Regards, Christian |
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| zcuc |
Posted on 28-10-2007 13:42
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Member Location: Israel Posts: 492 Joined: 08.10.07 |
thanks Christian, The photo was taken with my old camera, so the image quality is not great. Does Tachyagetes search for specific prey? or any good size spider will do? |
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| Christian Schmid-Egger |
Posted on 28-10-2007 13:56
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Member Location: Germany, Berlin Posts: 233 Joined: 05.08.05 |
The prey relationsship in most Pompilidae from Med. countries is still unknown. Probably the wasp takes all suited spiders (from size and type) in a special habitat. Regards, Christian |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 28-10-2007 14:27
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
the spider seems to be an Amaurobiidae. Amaurobius sp. |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 28-10-2007 19:07
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14126 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Jorge! jorgemotalmeida wrote: the spider seems to be an Amaurobiidae. Amaurobius sp. To me it seems more like an Agelena (Agelenidae). Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 28-10-2007 22:10
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
i thought the same,, but there is a problem : the prosoma is very acute for an Agelenidae. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 28-10-2007 22:54
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
we were both wrong. This is Lycosoides . Probably L. coarctata. |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 29-10-2007 00:56
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14126 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Jorge! jorgemotalmeida wrote: we were both wrong. This is Lycosoides . Probably L. coarctata. Ah, that's a genus I don't know from here (doesn't occur in central europe). But at least it's Agelenidae  .
Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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