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 Muscid at light in garden (15.11.19). Or Anthomyiid? --> Muscidae
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 16-11-2019 21:56
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 11392 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, this 5.5 mm fly visited the light in our garden last night at 3.5 °C (northwest Germany). Maybe a Hebecnema?    
Edited by Juergen Peters on 19-02-2020 04:29 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 19-11-2019 04:43
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 11392 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Up...
Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 20-11-2019 00:01
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 8358 Joined: 24.05.05 |
not Hebecnema
Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 20-11-2019 00:05 Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 20-11-2019 19:30
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 11392 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello Nikita, Nikita Vikhrev wrote: not Hebecnema thank you! Makes it even more interesting. What could it be...? Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 18-02-2020 23:08
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 11392 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Juergen Peters wrote: What could it be...? Perhaps Anthomyiidae? Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 19-02-2020 02:19
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 7840 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Hind tibia has too few bristles for Anthomyiidae. |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 19-02-2020 04:27
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 11392 Joined: 11.09.04 |
John Carr wrote: Hind tibia has too few bristles for Anthomyiidae. Thanks John! Then it has to remain Muscidae indet. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 19-02-2020 12:52
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 Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Dear Nikita, why not a female Hebecnema nigricolor? I can't think of many Muscidae with such a small anterior spiracle. The spiracle doesn't fit with most genera of Muscidae. The palpi appear to be dark brown. Mid and hind femora yellow. I can't see Helina here so what else would it be? edit: plus the wing veins are brownish-yellow. edit: I've tried to key it again and the only other competitor is Mydaea electa. I remember that Mydaea has a yellowish wing base. Best Wishes, John Edited by johnes81 on 19-02-2020 13:37 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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