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Muscid at light in garden (15.11.19). Or Anthomyiid? --> Muscidae
Juergen Peters
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Posted on 16-11-2019 21:56
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Hello,

this 5.5 mm fly visited the light in our garden last night at 3.5 °C (northwest Germany). Maybe a Hebecnema?


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Edited by Juergen Peters on 19-02-2020 04:29
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Up...
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not Hebecnema
Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 20-11-2019 00:05
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Hello Nikita,

Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
not Hebecnema


thank you! Makes it even more interesting. What could it be...?
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Juergen Peters wrote:
What could it be...?


Perhaps Anthomyiidae?
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Hind tibia has too few bristles for Anthomyiidae.
 
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John Carr wrote:
Hind tibia has too few bristles for Anthomyiidae.


Thanks John! Then it has to remain Muscidae indet.
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Dear Nikita,

why not a female Hebecnema nigricolor?

I can't think of many Muscidae with such a small anterior spiracle. The spiracle doesn't fit with most genera of Muscidae. The palpi appear to be dark brown. Mid and hind femora yellow. I can't see Helina here so what else would it be? edit: plus the wing veins are brownish-yellow.

edit: I've tried to key it again and the only other competitor is Mydaea electa. I remember that Mydaea has a yellowish wing base.

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John
Edited by johnes81 on 19-02-2020 13:37
John and Nini. Naturalists not experts.
 
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