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Muscidae: Phaonia incana ? => Helina evecta (male)
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More images to maybe get an ID.

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Hi Skrylten, when I catch one like this in the Netherlands, I would check Helina evecta first. It doesn't seem to have the 'Phaonia pd' on the hind tibia.
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It looks too plump, but I agree with Niels-Jan that all other possibilities could be excluded: meron hairy; pd on t3 absent; scutellum hairy on underside.
Skrylten, what a excelent series of images!
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Revisited the keys and you are both absolutely correct.

I have problems with evecta/annosa in the key but the number of av setae on hindtibia would make it H. evecta as you say.

Thanks to both of you and for the nice comment on the images Nikita !

I am "nerdy" enough to enjoy documenting the differences to ID the flies CoolGrin
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Conserning evecta/annosa: I suspect that annosa is a synonym of evecta: there are a lot of intermediate specimens.
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