Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Bibio ferruginatus = Bibio reticulatus male
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 11-07-2019 12:30
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 Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16 |
male - May, 2018 - Berlin i think that this is Bibio ferruginatus male. i ask two favors: 1. confirm the species. 2. may i please have keys to palaearctic species with genitalia? anyone? johnes81 attached the following image:  [30.91Kb] Edited by johnes81 on 13-07-2019 18:59 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 11-07-2019 20:03
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19327 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It is very difficult to judge wing venation from picture, but based on this pic I’d say the posterior veins are tretty stripong, which would imply B. reticulatus. Theo |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 11-07-2019 21:17
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16 |
interesting. I don't have that species in my list for Germany but my Wife has it in her list. I tried to deduce what it is from my list because i have no keys or descriptions. Anyway, Thank you for replying, Theo. I forgot that you also study Bibionidae. I've added a dorsal shot if it helps. I have the specimen but i have not examined it. I don't have keys or drawings of genitalia so i try to avoid examination. hopefully you can see what is necessary to confirm reticulatus. Otherwise, i can add microscopic photos when i get around to examining the specimen. johnes81 attached the following image:  [47.29Kb] John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 13-07-2019 18:51
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19327 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Light can be very tricky on wing membrane, but defnitely looks like reticulatus ! Theo |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 13-07-2019 18:59
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1980 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Thank you, Theo. I agree about the light. I think that the wing veins are much darker than my photo. I remember seeing it in natural light and it looked much darker and stronger. I will change the title. I now understand that the reddish apex of the tibia eliminates ferruginatus. I have no keys but i found an old post here at diptera.info where you descrive ferruginatus. I now see that reticulatus is a prefect fit. Thank you very much. John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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