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Heleomyzidae - Suillia affinis
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Hi

* locality - Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL
* date - 2007.10 - last weekend
* size - 9 mm (medium fly)
* habitat - woodland
* substrate - ?


Suillia sp. ?


EDIT---> Title changed from "Heleomyzidae?" to "Heleomyzidae - Suillia cf. affinis" then to "Heleomyzidae - Suillia umbratica" and finally to "Heleomyzidae - Suillia affinis"
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My guess - Suillia affinis Wink
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
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thank you, Nikita! Smile
 
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Hi Jorge !.
Thx for infos Smile
It could be S. affinis (if the cerebral hairs , behind the head and over the neck are yellow) or S. umbratica if are black Smile
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I saw right now the specimen with my 20x loup Smile and it is clear that setae behind the head and over the "neck" are black. Smile Therefore this is Suillia umbratica. The setae are small behind the head.
I suppose you recall for upper part of occiput = behind the head and over the neck. Wink
In this photo of Nikita seems that the setae over the neck and behind the head are black... http://www.dipter...oto_id=855 but it can be misleading the photo. And we don?t see completely well the upper part of occiput.
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Yes it is S. umbratica Smile,
see (about the supracervicals) also:

http://diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=8502&pid=38682#post_38682

Andrzej Cool
 
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ups... I saw gently more above. It is precisely like the photo of cosmin. So, it is S. affinis! But it is impossible to see the setulae at 20x, right? We can perceive them just for the yellow patches! I thought that you are talking about the upper part of occiput that has really black setae . I will upload the photo more later.
Even with magnification that cosmin used it is not clear the setulae.
 
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