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 Phaonia to ID
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 30-04-2019 22:56
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 Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Hi, could this Phaonia be P. mediterranea? At first I didn't see any hairs on radial node on lower side, but looking more closely I see at least one very small hair. The key says "several setulae", which doesn't seem to be the case, but it's also not really bare. If I consider that the radial node is bare, than I end up with P. valida, except that I can't see any yellow hairs on the lower part of the occiput. What is your opinion? location: Barcelos (Portugal) date: 23/04/2019 Rui Andrade attached the following image:  [146.24Kb] |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 30-04-2019 22:56
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 30-04-2019 22:57
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 30-04-2019 22:57
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 30-04-2019 22:58
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
prosternum
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 30-04-2019 22:58
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
notopleuron
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 30-04-2019 22:59
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 30-04-2019 22:59
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
mid tibia showing posterior setae
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 30-04-2019 23:00
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
radial node on lower side of wing
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 03-05-2019 14:13
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
No chance for an ID?  |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 03-05-2019 17:52
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9577 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Rui, I agree with Ph. mediterranea. 1. Portugal is a proper place. 2. Should be similar to Ph. errans, as large as errans or even larger. 3. 50% specimens of Ph. mediterranea has 1(2) hairs also on dorsal side of radial node, check it. Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 03-05-2019 20:08
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Thank you Nikita! There is definitely one hair on the dorsal side of wing (see picture). Does this means it is P. mediterranea? The radial node on dorsal side of wing is bare in P. valida?
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 04-05-2019 09:17
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9577 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Yes, P. mediterranea without doubts: dorsal hair is a unique character.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 04-05-2019 11:44
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Thank you so much Nikita!  |
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