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Fannia pallitibia to confirm
Stephane Lebrun
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Found today in a woodland. With my keys, I have identified it as Fannia pallitibia.
Could you confirm ?

Locality : Le Havre - France
Date : Oct. 01 2007
Size : 6 mm (mesured)
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Hi Stephane.
Sems OK for me Wink
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Thanks my friend. I have a little doubt because presut ac are biserial, and should be triserial.


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I'm out of my specimens to compare, will do it Sunday.
Here in Turkey I have Fannia krimensis with 3- instead of 2-serial ac (or 2- instead of 3-) Grin 12 females without any male Angry Autumn...
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Hi Stephane.
I compared with 4 specimens of F.pallitibia I have (all females Angry)
2 spp. have biserial ac
2 spp. have 2,5-serial ac (two distinct rows and 1-2 additionl setae between.
I think we use same source Rozkosny,Gregor, Pont.
I think that usualy triserial means that biserial too. Abdomen enterely black, F.pruinosa - rare, so F.pallitibia, at least so far.
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By the way, my turkish (new for Turkey as well as another two collected - F.pusio and F.pauli) F.krimensis (=F.argentea) also has biserial ac instead of triserial according Rozkosny,Gregor, Pont. On the other hand we have in Moscow Zool museum a seria of 30 females of F.krimensis collected chrestomaticaly in Krim (Grin) with also biserial ac! I have to add an important detail all flies have Det. label by Adrian Pont himself! So, I'm thinking should I disturb Maestro with this problem or regard it as Rozkosny,Gregor, Pont books error Shock
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Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
I think we use same source Rozkosny,Gregor, Pont.

Yes, plus D'Assis Fonseca. In this last book, it is mentionned bi-serial for pallitibia.
And, indeed, it is written "usualy".

Thank you for the confirmation and your good advices. Wink
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I've got message from Adrian Pont.
Fannia krimensis Pont has biserial ac, it is en error in Rozkosny at all. Grin
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