Gallery Links
Users Online
· Guests Online: 15

· Members Online: 1
Juergen Peters

· Total Members: 4,953
· Newest Member: Adam Poole
Forum Threads
Theme Switcher
Switch to:
Last Seen Users
· Juergen PetersOnline
· Tony Irwin00:12:44
· olep00:52:55
· Mario Renden01:24:22
· smol01:33:07
· Jan Maca01:57:15
· Nacho Cabellos01:58:31
· Jann Wuebben...03:31:33
· Volker04:05:14
· kuv04:09:31
Latest Photo Additions
View Thread
Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (eggs, larvae, pupae)
Who is here? 1 guest(s)
 Print Thread
pupa - Drosophilidae?
Louis Boumans
#1 Print Post
Posted on 24-09-2007 23:08
Member

Location: NO Oslo
Posts: 262
Joined: 09.06.04

In a different forum, javanerkelens ("Joke" ) posted a picture of what I think is an empty diptera pupa. It has long 'horns' which seem to end in a tuft of hair. This looks like some of the Drosophilidae in Smith's "immatrure stages of British flies". Does anyone here recognise this type of pupa?

http://forum.waar...opic=35537

I will ask her about the size..

thanks in advance, Louis
 
Paul Beuk
#2 Print Post
Posted on 25-09-2007 07:51
User Avatar

Super Administrator

Location: Netherlands
Posts: 19225
Joined: 11.05.04

Could well be Drosophilidae, though I must say I have never seen horns that long in our native species. But then again I have not seen many.
Paul

- - - -

Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info
 
diptera.info
Tony Irwin
#3 Print Post
Posted on 25-09-2007 22:09
User Avatar

Member

Location: Norwich, England
Posts: 7192
Joined: 19.11.04

Another possibilty is Ephydridae - I'm afraid my grasp of the Dutch language is minimal - is there any indication of where the puparium was found? This might help establish what it is.
Tony
----------
Tony Irwin
 
Tony Irwin
#4 Print Post
Posted on 25-09-2007 22:41
User Avatar

Member

Location: Norwich, England
Posts: 7192
Joined: 19.11.04

Looking at the image again, it seems that the long processes are anterior, rather than posterior, so it's not an ephydrid. Drosophila funebris is known to have very long pupal horns, so this common and widespread species would be my suggestion.
Tony
----------
Tony Irwin
 
Paul Beuk
#5 Print Post
Posted on 26-09-2007 06:09
User Avatar

Super Administrator

Location: Netherlands
Posts: 19225
Joined: 11.05.04

The only thing mentioned was that it was found on a leaf.
Paul

- - - -

Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info
 
diptera.info
Louis Boumans
#6 Print Post
Posted on 26-09-2007 10:09
Member

Location: NO Oslo
Posts: 262
Joined: 09.06.04

yes, the photographers says it was found hanging from a leaf with a feltlike structure (maybe like Cirsium vulgare?) - I interpret this as the underside of a leaf on a living plant. She thinks it was 4 to 5 mm long, without the horns.

Thanks for your suggestions so far, Louis
Edited by Louis Boumans on 26-09-2007 10:11
 
Louis Boumans
#7 Print Post
Posted on 26-09-2007 10:17
Member

Location: NO Oslo
Posts: 262
Joined: 09.06.04

PS, Tony,

a pupa of Drosophila funebris is depicted in Smith's (1989) "An introduction to the immature stages of Britisch flies". In this picture the horns aren't that long.
Another question is what could be the function of such long horns? One would think this enables the pupa to breathe when submerged in water, or rotting fruit maybe?
 
Tony Irwin
#8 Print Post
Posted on 26-09-2007 20:25
User Avatar

Member

Location: Norwich, England
Posts: 7192
Joined: 19.11.04

My mistake Angry - I misread the caption in Shorrocks (Invertebrate Types: Drosophila p.36). I should have said Drosophila immigrans, not funebris. This is a fruit-feeding species, so perhaps the larva fell from a rotting fruit, or was stuck on a bird's beak and was wiped off on the leaf.
The pupal horns are for breathing when the puparium is in deep liquid. The hairs at the tip of the tubes keep the opening at the surface of the liquid, so the whole puparium can be submerged, but continues to breathe.
Edited by Tony Irwin on 26-09-2007 20:27
Tony
----------
Tony Irwin
 
Louis Boumans
#9 Print Post
Posted on 26-09-2007 22:12
Member

Location: NO Oslo
Posts: 262
Joined: 09.06.04

Thanks Tony, that's really interesting information. D. immigrans is known from the Netherlands, so it's quite possible it is this species indeed.

Louis
 
Jump to Forum:
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Drosophilidae ID -> Lordiphosa Diptera (adults) 3 25-03-2024 16:36
Lauxaniidae or Drosophilidae? -> Minettia fasciata-group Diptera (adults) 6 17-03-2024 10:28
Are they both mosquito larvae?->larva and pupa of a Culicidae Diptera (eggs, larvae, pupae) 4 14-03-2024 11:10
Ephydridae? => Drosophilidae Diptera (eggs, larvae, pupae) 5 19-02-2024 12:45
Drosophilidae -> cf. Drosophila cameraria Diptera (adults) 3 28-01-2024 20:03
Date and time
19 April 2024 19:51
Login
Username

Password



Not a member yet?
Click here to register.

Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Temporary email?
Due to fact this site has functionality making use of your email address, any registration using a temporary email address will be rejected.

Paul
Donate
Please, help to make
Diptera.info
possible and enable
further improvements!
Latest Articles
Syrph the Net
Those who want to have access to the Syrph the Net database need to sign the
License Agreement -
Click to Download


Public files of Syrph the Net can be downloaded HERE

Last updated: 25.08.2011
Shoutbox
You must login to post a message.

07.03.24 00:01
Some flies preserved in ethanol and then pinned often get the eyes sunken, how can this be avoided? Best answer: I usually keep alcohol-collected material in alcohol

17.08.23 15:23
Aneomochtherus

17.08.23 13:54
Tony, I HAD a blank in the file name. Sorry!

17.08.23 13:44
Tony, thanks! I tried it (see "Cylindromyia" Wink but don't see the image in the post.

17.08.23 11:37
pjt - just send the post and attached image. Do not preview thread, as this will lose the link to the image,

16.08.23 08:37
Tried to attach an image to a forum post. jpg, 32kB, 72dpi, no blanks, ... File name is correctly displayed, but when I click "Preview Thread" it just vanishes. Help!

23.02.23 21:29
Has anyone used the Leica DM500, any comments.

27.12.22 21:10
Thanks, Jan Willem! Much appreciated. Grin

19.12.22 11:33
Thanks Paul for your work on keeping this forum available! Just made a donation via PayPal.

09.10.22 17:07
Yes, dipterologists from far abroad, please buy your copy at veldshop. Stamps will be expensive, but he, the book is unreasonably cheap Smile

Render time: 1.26 seconds | 191,241,702 unique visits