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Mycetophilidae, Sept. 18, 2007
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 20-09-2007 08:43
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Ozhigovo station, Naro-Fominsk district, Moscow region, Russia. I hope it's recognizable because of its big size (6.5 mm) and distinct coloration.
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| xylo |
Posted on 20-09-2007 09:38
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Member Location: Posts: 139 Joined: 21.08.04 |
Hi Black, great photo!!! Big catch!!! No doubt a fungus gnat within Leiini.... first idea was Greenomyia, but M2 and CuA1 not reaching the wing margin, so it have to be Neoclastobasis!!! Never seen before. According to Zaitzev (1994) ther are two species: Neoclatobasis sibirica Ostroverchova, 1970 and N. kamijoi Sasakawa, 1964 probably someone else could tell more.... so long, xylo Edited by xylo on 20-09-2007 09:47 |
| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 20-09-2007 09:50
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Thanks a lot xylo - I've got more views (mostly lateral ones, too) and the specimen of course, maybe you need something more to facilitate proper ID? |
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| crex |
Posted on 20-09-2007 10:12
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
I think the correct genus name should be Neoclastobasis. I found nothing searching for the other spelling. |
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| crex |
Posted on 20-09-2007 10:18
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
In Fauna Europaea is mentioned - Neoclastobasis draskovitsae, Matile 1978 - Neoclastobasis sibirica, Ostroverkhova 1970 ... but that might be obsolete info ... |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 20-09-2007 10:18
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Matile (1978) also described a species in Neoclastobasis from Hungary, but I do not know if it is still in that genus. I will check the publication and also Zaitsev's 1982 one.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 20-09-2007 11:01
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Many thanks crex and Paul. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 21-09-2007 10:00
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
According to Matile's paper this should be N. sibirica. N. draskovitsae has an overall paler appearance.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 21-09-2007 10:04
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Many thanks again Paul. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 21-09-2007 10:04
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Please, submit for the Gallery.
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 21-09-2007 10:10
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
Sure (with others in queue). |
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| Dmitry Gavryushin |
Posted on 27-09-2008 13:44
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Member Location: Moscow region, Russia Posts: 3346 Joined: 17.10.05 |
I've found one more female on September 25, 2008, this time right at my balcony, so it's maybe not such a rarity here or I'm just lucky enough. Of course I forgot what it is and it took some time to get the genus name, Ostroverkhova & Stackelberg (1969) didn't help, I succeeded with Søli, Vockeroth and Matile (2000).
Dmitry Gavryushin attached the following image: ![]() [94.79Kb] While others can't climb, using infinite pains, I, gravity turning to jest, Ascend, with all ease, perpendicular planes, Rough or smooth, just as pleases me best. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 05-09-2011 14:09
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I think you got two different species here: The top one has the abbreviated veins characteristic of Neoclastobasis (although to a recent review of European Greenomyia that character does not seem to hold up), but the spurs of the mid and hind legs are brownish (rather than pale in the bottom picture) and the thorax seems to be less conspicuous setose (see in particular the scutellum). I think the bootom one is the true Greenomyia mongolica.
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| KWQ |
Posted on 06-09-2011 19:06
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Member Location: Turku, Finland Posts: 208 Joined: 10.12.04 |
Really beautiful pictures and fascinating species! This summer I've tried to gain a preliminary insight on mycetophilids too (which I find the most attractive of Nematocera), so it's nice to see there are also as distinctive ones as this in this big family. |
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