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is it possible to call those Syrphidae "Eristalis arbustorum" or they are only Eristalis sp ?

loire-atlantique, France, july 30 2007.
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the female :
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Probably E arbustorum - the face does not appear to have a dark stripe down its centre.
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Thank you !! ;-)
 
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I'm afraid I have to disagree. The very small pterostigma indicates that it is E. nemorum (= interrupta). And in males E. arbustorum the 3rd tergite usually has larger yellow markings. Besides, this behaviour is typical for Eristalis nemorum. E. arbustorum doesn't do things like this.
 
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I think you may be right, as the stigma does appear to be sharply defined. However I find that the orange markings vary considerably in both species.

I am sure that I have seen E arbustorum exhibitng this behaviour, or perhaps I should be making a much closer inspection of courting pairs (or triples)? What have others found?


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here is a triples ... (but i can't say if it is the same species !)

thanks to both of you ! Wink
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Oh lovely shot and the facial stripe is clear, so that is E interruptus.Grin
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thank you ! Smile
 
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