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| gbohne |
Posted on 09-12-2017 21:57
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Member Location: FR-Germany, Kassel Posts: 98 Joined: 20.03.11 |
Hello, I still have 3 drone flies (Eristalinae) from different locations that look very much the same. I can not decide the Tribus: Pipizini or Rhingiini When I compared with photos, it could be Heringa or Cheilosa. Location: Germany, NE-Hesse, Hessisch-Lichtenau: Hoher Meißner, 590m asl., 22.05.2016 Thank you for your time! Best regards -guido gbohne attached the following image:  [226.46Kb] Edited by gbohne on 09-12-2017 22:04 Guido Bohne |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 10-12-2017 02:38
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3917 Joined: 28.07.07 |
To discriminate between Pipizini and Rhingiini (or Cheilosiini) you need good lateral pictures of the head. In Pipizini the face is flat and covered in long, drooping hairs. There is no central prominence and no distinctly projecting mouth margin. Most Pipizini members are hardly identifiable from photos. Cheilosia of the Rhingiini has a bulbous face with a "nose" above the mouth. So this picture shows a typical Cheilosia, not a Heringia of Pipizini. I am afraid more cannot be said, at least I am not able to. As Jürgen already wrote, Syrphidae pictures should be posted in their own subforum. Regards, Sundew |
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| gbohne |
Posted on 10-12-2017 09:39
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Member Location: FR-Germany, Kassel Posts: 98 Joined: 20.03.11 |
Thank you very much for IDing and for providing me with the characteristics of the two Tribi. Next time I am going to post Syrphids directly to their forum. Regards, Guido Guido Bohne |
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| Valentin Nidergas |
Posted on 17-02-2018 19:13
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Member Location: Savoie, France Posts: 79 Joined: 17.05.13 |
Pipizini have a simple profile head (flat, withous facial kno ... so, this is a female Cheilosia sp. |
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