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Another fly on Daucus carota
lweit
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Posted on 22-08-2017 08:43
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Hello
Caught in my garden on flower of Daucus carota in NE of France (Distroff 57925), the 16/08/2017. Lenght body : 7 to 8 mm, wings : 5 to 6 mm.
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a second photo
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and a photo of the head

I think it resembles to her posted in this message a few days ago
https://diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=80957

Thank you
Louis
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Reminds me of Solieria, which is in the same tribe as Demoticus (the genus suggested for the other fly).
 
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Hello
Using the keys page 16 of this work
http://tachinidae.myspecies.info/sites/tachinidae.myspecies.info/files/Central%20European%20Key%20-%20plus%20figures.pdf

I arrived to Solieria vacua : palps thickened ± club-shaped, yellow and frons 1.02 - 1.30x as wide as one eye (here 1,3).

Louis
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Based on the colouration of the palpus, you are right.
I have no idea how reliable this feature is.

I'd say: get the male !


Theo
 
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Thank you Theo
The male the next time ?

Louis
 
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