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Tetanocera ferruginea > Elgiva sp.
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Posted on 12-04-2017 11:26
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Hey, this aquatic Brachycera larvae
observed alive on the water surface of a pound amid Lemna minor
4mm length when extended


rodredi.free.fr/tena/tet00.jpg

float hairs on spiracular disk
rodredi.free.fr/tena/tet01.jpg

rodredi.free.fr/tena/tet03.jpg

rodredi.free.fr/tena/tet04.jpg




ventral aspect
rodredi.free.fr/tena/tet05.jpg


CEPHALO-PHARYNGEAL SKELETON
rodredi.free.fr/tena/tet02.jpg

ventral arch
rodredi.free.fr/tena/tet06.jpg


litterature on the web
rodredi.free.fr/tena/tet07.png
rodredi.free.fr/tena/tet08.png

thanks for help
SDS
Edited by solito de solis on 18-04-2017 18:37
 
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an extra picture

head and thoracic part in dorsal view, extended
rodredi.free.fr/tena/ten09.jpg
Edited by solito de solis on 12-04-2017 19:59
 
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Hi
this afternoon, Easter day, I found in a fresh sample of the same water
another larva quite similar to the first one I presented to you in this topic.
I observed it on the surface on water and made a little video to save its behaviour.
Very unknown behaviour (to me) I noticed: from time to time the larva "breathes" from the air to the surface and swallows it by pushing it into its abdomen.
You will see in the video

rodredi.free.fr/tena/tenn.JPG
Edited by solito de solis on 16-04-2017 21:56
 
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Definitely Elgiva spec. In this genus the ventral anal lobes are fused at the base and the ventro-lateral lobes are constricted only in the ventral part. ID to species level in young stages are quite difficult if not impossible.
In some similar Tetanocera spec. and Sepedon spec. the ventral lobes are not fused at the base and the ventro-lateral lobes are constricted in dorsal and ventral part.
 
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Thanks to you, Atylotus.
I think I make big mistakes trying to make pictures on alive specimens
and putting back the larvae to the sample. So, I'm loosing good opportunites to
fix on pictures the features usefull to go through correct ID.
This time I forgot to make a correct picture of these anal lobes
I'll take car of your comment, Atylotus.
SDS



Video of a younger larvae Elgiva sp alive will be continue soon
Edited by solito de solis on 18-04-2017 18:44
 
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The clip with a young larva

around 0'35" same as around 4'0"" the larva is breathing and swallowing air with its mouth part
we see the air bubbles enter in his trachea
I guess it's to remain in equilibrium, floating on the water surface ?

YouTube Video


merci
SDS
Edited by solito de solis on 19-04-2017 21:04
 
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Another larva, less juvenile

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