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 Asilidae?
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| alexandrslutsky |
Posted on 12-01-2017 20:28
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Member Location: Posts: 125 Joined: 27.11.16 |
ID! Israel. Kfar Vradim city. 32°59'49.13" N 35°16'27.76" E 2013-01-06 Thank you!  |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 14-01-2017 00:17
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 Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2225 Joined: 18.05.10 |
A nice couple of Asilinae  They seem to belong to the Machimus group but we can't see enough.
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| alexandrslutsky |
Posted on 14-01-2017 01:34
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Quaedfliegh wrote: A nice couple of Asilinae They seem to belong to the Machimus group but we can't see enough.OK! Thank you! There are more images of the same region. ID?:   |
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| piros |
Posted on 14-01-2017 10:23
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1835 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Femeles look like Engelepogon here: http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=70138 Greetings, Henrik |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 14-01-2017 13:38
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 Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
It cannot be Engelopogon with such a bristly mesonotum  Anyway the first set of pictures doesn't seem to be the same genus than the second one 
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 14-01-2017 13:42 |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 14-01-2017 14:16
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2225 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Lunchbreak : ) These creatures are Erax sp. Note antennae, the straight and narrow 3rd segment.
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 14-01-2017 15:27
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
 Yes!! At least, clearly the second female fits nicely!  Perhaps it is my computer but I cannot see the antennae so clearly in the male and female first posted. And the mesonotum, looking so bare in those pictures, has completely fooled me. Alexander, could you post the pictures in higher resolution, please? It would be very interesting to see more detail. It should be either E. gracilis or E. nigrosetosus. I am inclined to think it is E. gracilis (through the microtrichae on the wings) but I would need to see more details to be certain. Perhaps any of you with a better quality computer can see more detail in those pictures. I simply cannot go further  |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 14-01-2017 16:48
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2225 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Coffeebreak : ) I dont think the first two are the same species as the last two. In asilidae lateral pictures are ususally more useful.
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 14-01-2017 17:05
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Reinoud, I see, you were talking about the second set of pictures That suits my first impression (see my 1rst post in this thread) I would love to know your opinion when you have time, but focusing in the two pictures of female Erax, I am rather convinced now of Erax gracilis. I cannot see all details but I see pale bristles on the abdomen. To my understanding, that should rule out Erax nigrosetosus... |
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| alexandrslutsky |
Posted on 14-01-2017 17:18
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Member Location: Posts: 125 Joined: 27.11.16 |
Thank you all very much! Offline limitations do not allow you to download full-size image. |
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| alexandrslutsky |
Posted on 14-01-2017 17:22
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Member Location: Posts: 125 Joined: 27.11.16 |
Quaedfliegh wrote: Coffeebreak : ) I dont think the first two are the same species as the last two. In asilidae lateral pictures are ususally more useful. OK! I'm going to do an image from a different angle. Thank you so much! |
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| alexandrslutsky |
Posted on 14-01-2017 17:26
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Member Location: Posts: 125 Joined: 27.11.16 |
Piluca_Alvarez wrote: Yes!! At least, clearly the second female fits nicely! Perhaps it is my computer but I cannot see the antennae so clearly in the male and female first posted. And the mesonotum, looking so bare in those pictures, has completely fooled me. Alexander, could you post the pictures in higher resolution, please? It would be very interesting to see more detail. It should be either E. gracilis or E. nigrosetosus. I am inclined to think it is E. gracilis (through the microtrichae on the wings) but I would need to see more details to be certain. Perhaps any of you with a better quality computer can see more detail in those pictures. I simply cannot go further Thank you! I can send the full-size images by e-mail, but have not got it |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 14-01-2017 18:01
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Alexander, sorry, I thought my e-mail was visible in my profile. That is solved now! Anyway, here it is! pilucaaf@gmail.com Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 14-01-2017 18:01 |
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| alexandrslutsky |
Posted on 14-01-2017 18:29
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Member Location: Posts: 125 Joined: 27.11.16 |
Piluca_Alvarez wrote: Alexander, sorry, I thought my e-mail was visible in my profile. That is solved now! Anyway, here it is! pilucaaf@gmail.com Thank you! I sent everything. |
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