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unknown tachinid
Stuart Ball
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Posted on 20-07-2007 13:54
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Shockcan anyone identify this possible tachinid. I think it might be one of the Gymnosoma (clavatum ?)
Size approx 8mm. Found on rough vegetation at Portsdown Hill, Hampshire.
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Hi Stuart

Pity we can see the frons.
It's too big for clavatum and it really looks like (note the formulation) as a female of G. nudifrons. Which is never recorded in the UK, as fas as I know.
DId you collect it. Or have pictures from front ?


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Stuart told me that he didn't take a specimen BUT this photo reminds me of a female Gymnosoma that was sent to me recently (see images below). It was taken slightly out of the normal range for G. rotundatum and not on sand either. I have ruled out clavatum on the genitalia but I'd appreciate your comments Theo. Smile
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close-up of frons...
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This is 100 % NOT nudifrons.
As far as I can tell from the pic, it's a typical female rotundatum.
Despite the atypical locality.

Theo
 
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Ahh, no problem ... a slight range extension then and a different habitat to the norm, but nothing new then Smile

Would nudifrons have an entirely black, undusted frons?
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Yep, and slightly more smoky wings than in rotundatum.

Both are suggested by Stuart's picture, however, I stress suggested.


Theo
 
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Posted on 21-07-2007 09:18
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Hello Chris and Theo
Thanks for your advice on this pic.
Stuart
 
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Well Stuart,

DID you collect it ?


Theo
 
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Posted on 21-07-2007 20:07
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No Theo, I did not take a specimen.
I took only 3 pictures, none of which showed the frons.
Stuart
 
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Posted on 22-07-2007 10:10
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Pity. Maybe next time.

It amazed me that you in the UK have not found G. nudifrons yet.
You must have it, somewhere. So keep looking !

Theo
 
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