Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 7 days trying to know... a muscid fly ---> Helina evecta (female)
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 09-03-2016 20:21
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 Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 692 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Muscidae with some wing veins infuscated found at home (february the 7th 2016, IBERIA: Girona: Beuda: 400 masl) And getting very fustrated  :after following Séguy and Nearctic diptera, ....What I did wrong?  Lispe? Phaonia? Helina? Nothing fits well enoughI made a nice collage  , although resolution may fail,...NOTE: The last two pictures of the collage have an error of interpretation rafael_carbonell attached the following image:  [194.41Kb] Edited by rafael_carbonell on 12-03-2016 00:30 |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 09-03-2016 20:27
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 692 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Full resolution image: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10936377/Helina%2020160207%20f%20MT2.jpg Edited by rafael_carbonell on 09-03-2016 20:34 |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 09-03-2016 20:33
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 692 Joined: 23.03.06 |
... and I forgot the scutellum
rafael_carbonell attached the following image:  [109.76Kb] Edited by rafael_carbonell on 09-03-2016 20:35 |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 09-03-2016 20:36
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rafael_carbonell attached the following image:  [177.66Kb] Edited by rafael_carbonell on 09-03-2016 20:37 |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 09-03-2016 21:36
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Rafael, I think your mistake come from the pd on t3 : they are actually ad (an ad are actually av). Try to see if you can find some small setulae under scutellum as well as small setulae on meron : if, so, it is Helina evecta. Stephane. |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 10-03-2016 00:12
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 692 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Thanks Stephane! I will correct that Rafael |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 10-03-2016 22:18
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 692 Joined: 23.03.06 |
I add the picture af the hind leg corrected Anyway I think Séguy must be obsolete (I got Phaonia candicans) rafael_carbonell attached the following image:  [129.22Kb] Edited by rafael_carbonell on 10-03-2016 22:19 |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 10-03-2016 22:33
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 692 Joined: 23.03.06 |
The scutellum
rafael_carbonell attached the following image:  [145.19Kb] Edited by rafael_carbonell on 10-03-2016 22:35 |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 10-03-2016 22:36
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 692 Joined: 23.03.06 |
... and the meron The new corrected collage at full resolution is at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10936377/Helina%2020160207%20f%20MT4.jpg rafael_carbonell attached the following image:  [144.01Kb] |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 11-03-2016 09:49
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Rafael, I can see other little mistakes on your montage : the seta pointed in yellow is not the supra-alar, but the pre-alar, and it is not the katepimeron but the katepisternum.
Stephane. |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 11-03-2016 23:21
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 692 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Thanks for correcting. I hope in the future my montage can be useful (specially if it's correct) for somebody else. The montage of Helina evecta female at full resolution: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10936377/Helina%20evecta%2020160207%20f%20MT.jpg I wrote the anatomical parts following the tachinid mosch web site: http://www.tachinidae.eu/definition/definition.htm# But I see it is a bit simplified Best wishes Rafael rafael_carbonell attached the following image:  [181.75Kb] Edited by rafael_carbonell on 12-03-2016 00:29 |
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