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 Tipula ?
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| EHRHARDT Michel |
Posted on 10-12-2015 10:42
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Member Location: France (Alsace) Posts: 149 Joined: 22.09.12 |
Hello, Found in France (Ungersheim - Alsace) April, 28th 2013 near a forest swamp. Lenght 20 mm. Tipula sp or more ? Thanks. EHRHARDT Michel attached the following image:  [197.94Kb] Edited by EHRHARDT Michel on 10-12-2015 10:45 |
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| EHRHARDT Michel |
Posted on 10-12-2015 10:45
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Member Location: France (Alsace) Posts: 149 Joined: 22.09.12 |
Second view :
Edited by EHRHARDT Michel on 10-12-2015 20:43 |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 10-12-2015 13:03
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3938 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Your "second view" is a distorted version of Johane's picture in thread http://www.dipter...d_id=70842 - how did this happen? As to wing colouration, I suppose Tipula subgenus Pterelachisus, but this is just a result of comparison of the French genera in the Catalogue of the Craneflies of the World (http://ccw.natura...search.php). Regards, Sundew Edited by Sundew on 10-12-2015 13:38 |
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| EHRHARDT Michel |
Posted on 10-12-2015 19:35
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Member Location: France (Alsace) Posts: 149 Joined: 22.09.12 |
Hello Sundew, Thanks for your answer. Our second view is the right second view of our post. It is the same Tipula. Best regards. |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 10-12-2015 20:17
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3938 Joined: 28.07.07 |
I am sorry, but this is what I see - compare the two screenshots! Your second picture shows a blurred detail of a copulation that took place in Sweden! Better delete the photo and post it again to make sure that it shows really your French fly.
Sundew attached the following image:  [136.76Kb] |
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| EHRHARDT Michel |
Posted on 10-12-2015 20:44
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Member Location: France (Alsace) Posts: 149 Joined: 22.09.12 |
Second view :
EHRHARDT Michel attached the following image:  [186.1Kb] |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 11-12-2015 00:21
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3938 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Ah - what a nice male! I worked through all pictures of hypopygia in Pjotr Oosterbroek's catalogue and still believe in subgenus Pterelachisus, something like Tipula pseudovariipennis. However, I am no cranefly expert at all, so I recommend to write a Private Message to Pjotr Oosterbroek (he visits the forum only rarely - what a pity!). I am very sure he knows the name of your fly. |
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| EHRHARDT Michel |
Posted on 11-12-2015 18:14
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Member Location: France (Alsace) Posts: 149 Joined: 22.09.12 |
Thank you Sundew, I will contact Pjotr. |
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| EHRHARDT Michel |
Posted on 22-10-2025 13:26
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Member Location: France (Alsace) Posts: 149 Joined: 22.09.12 |
My apologies for the very slow response. Finaly, it is Tipula winthemi. You can see it here : Catalogue of the Craneflies of the World: Tipula (Pterelachisus) winthemi Lackschewitz, 1932 Best regards, Michel |
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