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 Syrphus vitripennis ? No, S. cf. torvus
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| kuv |
Posted on 14-03-2015 09:57
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3773 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Northern Germany, Schleswig-Holstein, Schenefeld near Hamburg, at an uncultivated natural area near a small rivulet, 25 m, Outsidefoto (only this pic): kuv, 22th of June 2013. Is my idea correct? Please help to get the ID. Kuv kuv attached the following image:  [100.26Kb] Edited by kuv on 16-03-2015 09:28 |
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| daveb21 |
Posted on 14-03-2015 19:25
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Member Location: Norfolk UK Posts: 152 Joined: 30.10.14 |
If those are hairs on the eyes could S. torvus if you get them where you are? |
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| kuv |
Posted on 15-03-2015 15:52
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3773 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Thank you very much Dave -  . To check whether I have understood you in the right way I first put an enlarged pic of the hairy eyes to the thread. And second I can tell that S. torvus is reported in whole Germany (where I found the fly). Best regards Kuv kuv attached the following image:  [51.67Kb] |
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| daveb21 |
Posted on 15-03-2015 17:38
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Member Location: Norfolk UK Posts: 152 Joined: 30.10.14 |
Hi Kuv, Fine white hairs on the eyes themselves are used to differentiate S. vitripennis and S. torvus in the U.K. S .torvus flies early so if no other Syrphus with hairy eyes in your area then should be fine for torvus. (Sorry don't really know continental Hovers as yet. Dave |
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| kuv |
Posted on 15-03-2015 18:09
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3773 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Thank you Dave. Unfortunately both, S. torvus and vitripennis fly here evidently from March to September/October in several generations. As I don't know whether the eyes at the second pic are "hairy" enough I 'll change the headline of this thread hoping somebody knows exactly ... Best regards Kuv |
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| daveb21 |
Posted on 15-03-2015 19:48
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Member Location: Norfolk UK Posts: 152 Joined: 30.10.14 |
Eyes are hairy enough, not so dense in females, eye hairs not in vitripennis; meant that I was unsure if other Syrphus in your area may be similar |
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| kuv |
Posted on 16-03-2015 09:26
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Member Location: Schenefeld near Hamburg Posts: 3773 Joined: 30.04.10 |
Thank you Dave once more. As I found a key where the difference is called "numerous hairs -> S. torvus" to "some very short scattered hairs to other like S. nitidifrons" I think it is best to say for my fly "S. cf. torvus". Best regards Kuv |
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