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 Stevenia atramentaria subgr.(ID Theo Zeegers).; SW Spain
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 20-01-2015 19:59
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 Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1138 Joined: 23.04.10 |
A Stevenia from May 2014.
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 20-01-2015 20:01
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1138 Joined: 23.04.10 |
And a second photo:
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 20-01-2015 20:16
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19380 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yes, a male Stevenia in the atramentaria subgroup. I would not dare to say more, also since we know there are undescribed species in Spain. If you could collect those males, that would be great ! Theo |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 20-01-2015 20:25
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1138 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Bedankt Theo!!!  Nice to know that there still new species to be found in Spain.  I will try to remember to collect those males. Groetjes! André Edited by Andre Burgers on 20-01-2015 20:27 errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 20-01-2015 20:38
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19380 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Hola Andre So you really are a Belgium in Spain ? Thanks for the help ! Theo |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 21-01-2015 07:25
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1138 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Hi Theo, No, no Belgian but a fellow Dutchman in SW Spain. Just one stupid question (my knowledge is very limited!!): what species is this sub-group composed of?? I can't find any info on it. De mazzel! 
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 21-01-2015 09:20
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19380 Joined: 21.07.04 |
http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2007f/zt01624p041.pdf Theo |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 21-01-2015 10:18
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1138 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Thanks again, Theo, but I already knew about this article. I always try, in vain I must say, to follow its keys. But no mention is made of groups/ sub-groups, as far as I can see.
Edited by Andre Burgers on 21-01-2015 20:46 errare humanum est sed perseverare diabolicum |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 21-01-2015 19:08
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19380 Joined: 21.07.04 |
WEll, try to follow the key. You get to a ' atramentaria vs. umbratica' junction, point 11 if I remember correctly. From there on, I would speak of ' atramentaria subgroup. So atramentaria, deceptoria and the new ones from Italy. Theo |
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| Andre Burgers |
Posted on 21-01-2015 20:53
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Member Location: Minas de Riotinto, Huelva Province, Spain Posts: 1138 Joined: 23.04.10 |
Okidoki, Theo. Now I can see it clearly. Thanks for your infinite patience!!! ¡Saludos!
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