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 fly with shiny dark pronotum > supposedly Cheilosia vernalis
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| Lennart Bendixen |
Posted on 16-01-2015 00:16
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Member Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1171 Joined: 19.12.14 |
Hi, is this fly identifiable? Or at least its family? Thank you! Greetings, Lennart 2015-09-17, 3 p.m., Germany, Schleswig-Holstein, Mohrkirch, wild meadow Lennart Bendixen attached the following image:  [77.07Kb] Edited by Lennart Bendixen on 21-01-2015 18:55 |
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| piros |
Posted on 16-01-2015 02:46
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1801 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Looks like Cheilosia sp, (female) Syrphidae. Best regards, Henrik |
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| Lennart Bendixen |
Posted on 16-01-2015 08:01
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Member Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1171 Joined: 19.12.14 |
Hi Henrik, oh yes, that's possible...thank you! I didn't even think of Syrphidae, but maybe because the venation is kind of hidden in this picture. Maybe someone can put this thread into the Syrph subforum? Kind regards, Lennart Edited by Lennart Bendixen on 18-01-2015 21:44 |
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| Lukasz Mielczarek |
Posted on 18-01-2015 15:08
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 Member Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 498 Joined: 27.09.06 |
Looks like Cheilosia vernalis. Regards, Lukasz |
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| Lennart Bendixen |
Posted on 18-01-2015 22:03
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Member Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1171 Joined: 19.12.14 |
Thank you, Lukasz! May I ask you what makes you see that? (I don't know a thing about Cheilosia except that they're hard to identify...) Greetings, Lennart |
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| Lukasz Mielczarek |
Posted on 21-01-2015 14:47
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Member Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 498 Joined: 27.09.06 |
Dear Lennart, You are right that Cheilosia is very problematic genus in identification. In the end of summer and during autumn in Central Europe only few Cheilosia species have flight period. We can observe bare eyes species of pagana group (longula, scutellata, soror, pagana) and C. vernalis. I think it is female of C. vernalis because of hairy eyes, bristles on the scutellum and very dark hind tibia. Regards, Lukasz Edited by Lukasz Mielczarek on 21-01-2015 14:47 |
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| Lennart Bendixen |
Posted on 21-01-2015 18:59
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Member Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1171 Joined: 19.12.14 |
Hi Lukasz, thank you very much for that detailed information! Makes your supposition quite plausible (and I learned something new again...). Best wishes, Lennart |
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