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bums	#1 Posted on 07-12-2014 13:57
Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1051 Joined: 10.05.14	hello, I found these larvae in Bavaria,Germany in oktober'14 in/on a fresh dead deer lying in a damp forrest. ...it was an impressive vivid cluster of larvae surrounded by spume as an addition I took photos from flies present on the corps...maybe it helps by ID. feel free to ID the flies as well many thanks in advance Chris bums attached the following image: [143.16Kb] Edited by bums on 07-12-2014 14:01


bums	#2 Posted on 07-12-2014 13:58
Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1051 Joined: 10.05.14	and these bums attached the following image: [168.76Kb]


bums	#3 Posted on 07-12-2014 13:58
Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1051 Joined: 10.05.14	fly 1 bums attached the following image: [148.67Kb]


bums	#4 Posted on 07-12-2014 13:59
Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1051 Joined: 10.05.14	fly2 bums attached the following image: [170.85Kb]


bums	#5 Posted on 07-12-2014 13:59
Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1051 Joined: 10.05.14	fly3 bums attached the following image: [164.96Kb]


bums	#6 Posted on 07-12-2014 14:00
Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1051 Joined: 10.05.14	fly4 bums attached the following image: [119.13Kb]


bums	#7 Posted on 07-12-2014 14:01
Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1051 Joined: 10.05.14	fly5 bums attached the following image: [116.85Kb]


John Carr	#8 Posted on 07-12-2014 14:57
Super Administrator Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 10612 Joined: 22.10.10	fly1 is Calliphoridae and Muscidae fly2 is probably Fannia fly3 is probably Muscidae fly4 and fly5 are Calliphoridae Edited by John Carr on 07-12-2014 14:58


bums	#9 Posted on 11-12-2014 06:16
Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1051 Joined: 10.05.14	thanks a lot, John. I think fly 1+4+5 could be calliphora vicina , but the question on Larvae ID still remains...the flies were just meant to be a hint for possible larvae ID thanks for looking into this...chris


atylotus	#10 Posted on 11-12-2014 10:05
Member Location: Amsterdam, NL Posts: 1173 Joined: 29.05.09	The larva are most likely Calliphoridae, no Fannidae can be seen on the photo. I cannot exclude Muscidae, but the anal segment in caudal view reminds me of Calliphoridae.


bums	#11 Posted on 13-12-2014 07:54
Member Location: Wonsees, D Posts: 1051 Joined: 10.05.14	I found a "Key for identification of European and Mediterranean blowflies (Diptera, Calliphoridae) of forensic importance Third instars " ( http://www.eafe.org/Members_area_files/Szpila_key_blowflies_larva.pdf ) which I try to use for ID. But I ,being a notorious amateur, came not further than Id-ing the larvae as a 3 instar. (Calliphoridae?) as atylotus already mentioned...thanks for that,atylotus But I'm afraid that the close-ups you will find beneath are not enough helpful for further Identification.. thanks anyway bums attached the following image: [144.17Kb]


bums	#12 Posted on 13-12-2014 07:54
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bums	#13 Posted on 13-12-2014 07:55
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bums	#14 Posted on 13-12-2014 07:56
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