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| Ratatoskr |
Posted on 10-11-2014 01:17
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Photographed in southern Spain May 2014. Arid area with fruit plantations. Ratatoskr attached the following image:  [155.44Kb] Edited by Ratatoskr on 10-11-2014 01:17 Belief is not an idea that the mind possesses but an idea that possesses the mind. |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 10-11-2014 01:57
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Similar to Euodynerus variegatus. |
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| Ratatoskr |
Posted on 10-11-2014 14:36
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John Carr wrote: Similar to Euodynerus variegatus. Thanks. Do you know how to distinguish male from female? Belief is not an idea that the mind possesses but an idea that possesses the mind. |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 10-11-2014 16:04
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Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 9879 Joined: 22.10.10 |
In the social Vespidae, males are distinguished from workers by an extra segment of the antenna and abdomen, and the tip of the antenna is often curved. Queens share the longer abdomen. Eumeninae are not social. Possibly all females are built like queen Vespinae and Polistinae. Hymenoptera that transport food are female (including workers). Transported food includes pollen (bees), caterpillars (Vespidae), flies (Crabronidae), and more, but not nectar. A wasp that is eating on the spot could be male or female. |
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| piros |
Posted on 10-11-2014 16:57
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1763 Joined: 04.01.12 |
If you can count the number of "abdominal" segments, you can tell males and females apart. 6 visible segments = female, 7 segments = male. (For me, the picture is too dark.) Regards, Henrik |
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| piros |
Posted on 10-11-2014 17:01
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I think I can count 7 segment, If this is correct, then it is a male. |
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| Ratatoskr |
Posted on 10-11-2014 17:20
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 47 Joined: 23.02.10 |
piros wrote: If you can count the number of "abdominal" segments, you can tell males and females apart. 6 visible segments = female, 7 segments = male. (For me, the picture is too dark.) Regards, Henrik Thank you Henrik, Do males of all Eumenidae species have 7 segments and females 6? Here is a new enhanced photo of the abdomen. To me it seems like it's 7 segments. Am I right? Ratatoskr attached the following image:  [139.4Kb] Belief is not an idea that the mind possesses but an idea that possesses the mind. |
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| Ratatoskr |
Posted on 10-11-2014 17:22
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 47 Joined: 23.02.10 |
John Carr, Thank you very much for your information on differences to look for and note. I have written a small document with your information. Will add what Henrik said too to it. Interesting to learn this 
Belief is not an idea that the mind possesses but an idea that possesses the mind. |
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| piros |
Posted on 10-11-2014 17:56
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1763 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Do males of all Eumenidae species have 7 segments and females 6? Here is a new enhanced photo of the abdomen. To me it seems like it's 7 segments. Am I right? To my knowledge, yes. As you can see in my earlier reply, I also counted 7 segments
Edited by piros on 10-11-2014 18:01 |
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| Ratatoskr |
Posted on 10-11-2014 18:17
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 47 Joined: 23.02.10 |
piros wrote: Do males of all Eumenidae species have 7 segments and females 6? Here is a new enhanced photo of the abdomen. To me it seems like it's 7 segments. Am I right? To my knowledge, yes. As you can see in my earlier reply, I also counted 7 segments Thanks. A good day when I've learned something new.
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but don't see the image in the post.