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 Very large Tabanus --> T. autumnalis
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 18-05-2007 23:46
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14354 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! This male Tabanus (yesterday on a meadow, Ostwestfalen/Germany) was really big, I think clearly over 20 mm! I have never seen such a large Tabanid. Could this be T. sudeticus? Thanks! Bigger pictures: http://www.foto-u...M1_big.jpg (172 KB) http://www.foto-u...it_big.jpg (50 KB) Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [60.98Kb] Edited by Juergen Peters on 20-05-2007 00:53 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 18-05-2007 23:47
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14354 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Another picture.
Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [61.61Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 18-05-2007 23:47
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14354 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Portrait #1
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 18-05-2007 23:48
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14354 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Portrait #2
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| jalbala |
Posted on 19-05-2007 16:37
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Member Location: Vitoria (Spain) Posts: 12 Joined: 19.06.05 |
I believe that not T. sudeticus. By the drawing of thorax and abdomen it seems T. autumnalis. |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 19-05-2007 17:28
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14354 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Jalbala jalbala wrote: I believe that not T. sudeticus. By the drawing of thorax and abdomen it seems T. autumnalis. Thanks! I have had T. autumnalis here, but it was much smaller than this one... Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 19-05-2007 21:27
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 Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
I think the first posterior cell is closed, which would make it T eggeri. The females I have seen in France are pretty big - about 25mm. I've also had T autumnalis to 25mm in Essex, but again female, not males, and your beast is male. *Edit* Changed my mind - I'll vote for T autumnalis - the abdominal pattern is right, and I think it is a fold, not a vein, making the cell look closed. Edited by Susan R Walter on 19-05-2007 21:32 Susan |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 20-05-2007 00:52
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14354 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Susan! Susan R Walter wrote: *Edit* Changed my mind - I'll vote for T autumnalis - the abdominal pattern is right, and I think it is a fold, not a vein, making the cell look closed. Many thanks! Anyway: It was a very impressive fly! Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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