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Paragus but which species
Valentin Nidergas
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Posted on 07-03-2014 09:32
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Hello,

The data is mentionned below the photos.
With the van Veen key I find 3 species but I can't decide between the 3 species:

Paragus (paragus) finitimus
Paragus (paragus) albifrons
Paragus (paragus) flammens

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos115/big/dorsal.jpg
Valentin Nidergas : France : Saint-Pierre d'Albigny : 73250 : 26/05/2013
Altitude : 454 m - Taille : 6 mm
Réf. : 115806

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos115/big/lateralr.jpg
Valentin Nidergas : France : Saint-Pierre d'Albigny : 73250 : 26/05/2013
Altitude : 454 m - Taille : 6 mm
Réf. : 115807

www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/image/dos115/big/nervation_alaire.jpg
Valentin Nidergas : France : Saint-Pierre d'Albigny : 73250 : 26/05/2013
Altitude : 454 m - Taille : 6 mm
Réf. : 115808


Thanks. Smile
 
Mark van Veen
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Posted on 21-03-2014 13:51
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Can you preparate the genitalia? Study of the male genitalia is necessary to identify it.
 
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Valentin Nidergas
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Posted on 21-03-2014 20:21
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Thank you Mr. van Veen for your answer !

I have conserved the genitalia into a microtube with glycerol. I can show you photos but I can not take good pictures...

You can see a photo that I've taken, but it isn't a good quality:
i57.servimg.com/u/f57/16/32/84/62/sans_t11.jpg
 
Mark van Veen
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Posted on 27-03-2014 10:26
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Thanks for the picture of the genitalia. It helps to exclude P. finitimus, which has a large tooth above the lingula. It, however, does not show enough details of the hypandrium and aedeagus. I think it is albifrons or flammeus. Could you make a picture of the decisive parts (see figure 552 and 553 in my book)? The quality of the picture is well enough, you have to find the right angle.
 
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Valentin Nidergas
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Posted on 02-04-2014 19:04
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Thank you very much for your answer ! I will to take an other picture and I show you this ! Smile

But do you have any drawing who shox the anatomy of the male genitalia ? , because I don't know all parts of the anatomy...
 
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