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 Muscidae? Anthomyiidae? => Anthomyiidae
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| tristram |
Posted on 26-09-2012 19:13
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Member Location: Reading, UK Posts: 1335 Joined: 27.06.10 |
Photos taken in Reading, UK, on 2012-06-10. Any ideas for the family? tristram attached the following image:  [126.51Kb] Edited by tristram on 28-09-2012 17:26 |
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| tristram |
Posted on 26-09-2012 19:14
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Member Location: Reading, UK Posts: 1335 Joined: 27.06.10 |
Another angle:
tristram attached the following image:  [134.44Kb] |
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| tristram |
Posted on 26-09-2012 19:16
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Member Location: Reading, UK Posts: 1335 Joined: 27.06.10 |
And another:
tristram attached the following image:  [127.13Kb] |
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| oxycera |
Posted on 26-09-2012 19:33
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Member Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire Posts: 251 Joined: 31.12.09 |
How about Cinochira atra? |
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| tristram |
Posted on 26-09-2012 20:30
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Member Location: Reading, UK Posts: 1335 Joined: 27.06.10 |
Thanks. I'll change the title to attract the Tachinid experts. |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 26-09-2012 22:04
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
No, not Cinochira ... in this photo the median vein is not shallowly curved towards r4+5. Looks like Muscidae to me 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| tristram |
Posted on 27-09-2012 09:40
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Member Location: Reading, UK Posts: 1335 Joined: 27.06.10 |
Thanks, Chris. Another change of title... |
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| oxycera |
Posted on 27-09-2012 14:15
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Member Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire Posts: 251 Joined: 31.12.09 |
On closer scrutiny, the anal vein does appear to meet the edge of the wing, therefore Anthomyiidae (abdomen also appears antho-like). |
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| Roger Thomason |
Posted on 27-09-2012 18:32
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 Member Location: Mossbank,Shetland Isles. Posts: 5269 Joined: 17.07.08 |
I always thought orange colour on the frons was a way to tell if it was an Antho or a Muscid, without the need for any other visual clues. Maybe someone knows differently. So an Antho..it seems. Mind you, I have been wrong before...once or twice...well more actually!! Edited by Roger Thomason on 27-09-2012 18:32 |
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| Michael Ackland |
Posted on 28-09-2012 14:54
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Member Location: Dorset UK Posts: 680 Joined: 23.02.08 |
Sorry Roger, but the colour of the frons is of no value, anthomyiid frons can be all black or all yellow/red, or inbetween. I can''t offer any ID as I can't see the details, but it is about the right build. |
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| tristram |
Posted on 28-09-2012 15:43
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Member Location: Reading, UK Posts: 1335 Joined: 27.06.10 |
Thank you everybody. I didn't really expect a species, nor even a genus. I just thought this fly looked a little odd among my other unidentified Muscoids. |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 28-09-2012 17:22
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
On picture 2, one can distinctly see the anal vein reach the wing border, thus, of course, Anthomyiidae. Muscidae very rarely have (some Coenosiinae) an orange anterior part of frons (or it is entirely orange in orange-bodied species), so it remains a good clue on the field. Stephane. |
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