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Tabanus bromius
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Posted on 26-09-2012 12:50
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Caught in the East Sussex (UK) in early July this year. I caught 11 in total (in quick succession, at the same location) and the flies were ~12-15mm long

Sorry for the awful photos (the fly has been frozen, and is attracting condensation at it thaws - but I really /need/ to keep it frozen)

Is it possible to ID this to species from photos? What photos would be required in order to do so?

Is there a key (preferably on-line, or in an on-line publication) that I could use to key it out?

Thanks!

Darren
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Another photo
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And another
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Posted on 26-09-2012 15:05
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Having surfed the web a bit, I want to guess that this is a female Tabanus bromius.

This is based on looking a photos, and the size/location, not on a key! What do people think?
 
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Posted on 26-09-2012 19:41
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I agree with you!
 
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That's good to know ShockD - Thank you! Is there anything else you think it could be?
 
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The only similar (naked eyes, linear median callus and one eyeband) is maculicornis. Alula in form of narrow triangle = maculicornis, alula wide, almost rectangular = bromius. I believe I see wide alula = bromius.
 
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T. maculicornis is always much greyer (even slightly bluish), there is no doubt this is bromius.
The feature mentioned by Libor is excellent, by the way.


Theo
 
djo
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Posted on 27-09-2012 21:09
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Thank you so much! This all seems pretty conclusive.
 
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29.03.21 09:55
@PaulBeuk Thanks again mate- very useful! Smile

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11.03.21 17:23
Greetings! Does anyone have: Satchell's 1947 paper: The larvae of the British species of Psychoda (Diptera: Psychodidae)??? Many thanks Smile

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Thanks Tony

02.03.21 21:02
see FAQ (Forum and posting)

01.03.21 06:08
How do I submit photos for identification

23.02.21 10:02
Probably something in the file's 'ource data. I edited it and saved as png. Now it is okay.

22.02.21 14:13
What happened to the picture in https://diptera.in
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500 ? It had been comressed only horizontally...

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20.02.21 18:12
@beateSenf you can check the coincident threads with your species and try to write to whom identified them

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