Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Hippoboscidae id ?
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| BubikolRamios |
Posted on 02-05-2012 19:02
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Member Location: Slovenia Posts: 1729 Joined: 14.06.09 |
This is looks like just rolled out specimen. Should be l.cervi or not ? What bothers me is that I have adult specimen l.cervi photographed & measured: http://www.agrozo...tena-cervi 3 mm but this, attached, measures just a bit below 5 mm ! I kind doubt that it shrinks with time (-: BubikolRamios attached the following image:  [96.98Kb] Edited by BubikolRamios on 02-05-2012 19:04 highly searchable nature photo galery --> http://agrozoo.ne....jsp?l2=en |
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| Mark-uk |
Posted on 03-05-2012 10:50
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 Member Location: UK - Hampshire Posts: 792 Joined: 01.02.10 |
Crataerina pallida? what host was it found on? Edited by Mark-uk on 03-05-2012 10:51 |
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| BubikolRamios |
Posted on 03-05-2012 11:04
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Member Location: Slovenia Posts: 1729 Joined: 14.06.09 |
No host, on house wall, I suppose it came there from near by woods,transfered it there with some woods from forrest in last autumn & this spring. Or mybe from cat, highly unlikely, as , as far as I know then it would not have wings anymore.. Otherwise google images confirms your id. Thanks. Edited by BubikolRamios on 03-05-2012 11:09 highly searchable nature photo galery --> http://agrozoo.ne....jsp?l2=en |
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| Mark-uk |
Posted on 03-05-2012 11:11
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Member Location: UK - Hampshire Posts: 792 Joined: 01.02.10 |
Do you have Swift nests nearby? |
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| BubikolRamios |
Posted on 03-05-2012 11:20
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Member Location: Slovenia Posts: 1729 Joined: 14.06.09 |
you mean this: https://www.googl...p;tbm=isch ? No, as far as I know. But similar, Hirundo sp. is possible & very likely if that is possible. The thing was climbing up right under it's nest. Edited by BubikolRamios on 03-05-2012 11:22 highly searchable nature photo galery --> http://agrozoo.ne....jsp?l2=en |
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| Mark-uk |
Posted on 03-05-2012 11:55
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Member Location: UK - Hampshire Posts: 792 Joined: 01.02.10 |
I will look this up when i get home did you keep the specimen? |
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| BubikolRamios |
Posted on 03-05-2012 19:40
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Member Location: Slovenia Posts: 1729 Joined: 14.06.09 |
Yes the specimen is in captivity, if I will manage will take photos of bottom side & other details if neccesary.
highly searchable nature photo galery --> http://agrozoo.ne....jsp?l2=en |
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| Mark-uk |
Posted on 03-05-2012 22:30
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Member Location: UK - Hampshire Posts: 792 Joined: 01.02.10 |
My notes say normally on Swifts (Apus) but also on Matins & Swallows (Hirundo) I would be surprised if another Crataerina species but view of scutellum would be more useful than underside. Would be nice to have a specimen if you have more that one? Mark |
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| BubikolRamios |
Posted on 03-05-2012 22:56
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Member Location: Slovenia Posts: 1729 Joined: 14.06.09 |
Have one only, but you can have it. Address, packaging instructions,...... ? Edited by BubikolRamios on 03-05-2012 22:59 highly searchable nature photo galery --> http://agrozoo.ne....jsp?l2=en |
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| Mark-uk |
Posted on 04-05-2012 16:34
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Member Location: UK - Hampshire Posts: 792 Joined: 01.02.10 |
Hi Many thanks have PM'ed you |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 05-05-2012 17:49
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19325 Joined: 21.07.04 |
There are two species, one on swifts and one on martins. Are you aware of that ? Theo |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 05-05-2012 17:52
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19325 Joined: 21.07.04 |
http://en.wikipedia.org//Crataerina |
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| Mark-uk |
Posted on 05-05-2012 19:55
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Member Location: UK - Hampshire Posts: 792 Joined: 01.02.10 |
Yes I am - I wrote most of that wiki page  Hutton and a few other don't have it so clear cut as only being on the one host. one reason I am keen to see a specimen. Wigns look relatively short on the above why I favoured pallida, but not 100% hence the question mark. if it is not pallida - or hirundinis (now in Stenepteryx) - there are some other rarer options in Europe. Mark |
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| BubikolRamios |
Posted on 29-10-2019 22:17
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Member Location: Slovenia Posts: 1729 Joined: 14.06.09 |
moved to Crataerina-hirundinis http://agrozoo.ne...hirundinis due to known host relation & local guy says so Edited by BubikolRamios on 29-10-2019 22:18 highly searchable nature photo galery --> http://agrozoo.ne....jsp?l2=en |
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| TomiTrilar |
Posted on 30-10-2019 08:47
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Member Location: Ljubljana Posts: 156 Joined: 28.04.10 |
There are two genera of Hippoboscidae in Europe with very narrow wings. Below is a key to separate it: Wings narrow, slightly sickle-shaped, about 6 times longer than wide (Slika 3). Ocelli poorly developed. Stenepteryx Wings broad, leafy, 3 to 4 times as long as wide (Slika 4). Ocelli absent. Crataerina Your species is Stenepteryx hirundinis Best wishes, Tomi (i.e. local guy according to BubikolRamios) TomiTrilar attached the following image:  [26.07Kb] |
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