Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Unknow family ...=> Ulidiidae
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| pat_der2003 |
Posted on 01-04-2012 16:22
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Member Location: Paris area, France Posts: 1731 Joined: 20.08.07 |
60 km south Paris, France, April the 1st 2012, 8 mm (?). a dorsal view : pat_der2003 attached the following image:  [117.34Kb] Edited by pat_der2003 on 02-04-2012 17:56 |
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| pat_der2003 |
Posted on 01-04-2012 16:24
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Member Location: Paris area, France Posts: 1731 Joined: 20.08.07 |
a lateral view :
pat_der2003 attached the following image:  [124.24Kb] |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 02-04-2012 10:57
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Ulidiidae
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| Jorge |
Posted on 02-04-2012 13:02
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I agree with Paul, Ulidiidae. Nice specimen ... Ceroxys? |
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| pat_der2003 |
Posted on 02-04-2012 17:59
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Member Location: Paris area, France Posts: 1731 Joined: 20.08.07 |
Many thanks to both of you !!! I understood from a previous thread that this family is under re-built !! Nowadays, is Ulidiidae equal to Otitidae ? Or is there some spring of confusion in there ? Thanks again !!  |
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| saeed |
Posted on 02-04-2012 22:27
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Member Location: Iran Posts: 125 Joined: 10.03.08 |
Ulidiidae = Otitidae; European scientists use Ulidiidae and American Scientists use Otitidae but I think Ulidiidae is correct according to Kameneva and Korneyev, 2006. I think it is Dorycera sp.
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 03-04-2012 11:22
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My guess would not be Ceroxys but perhaps Dorycera (though I think the status of that genus compared to Otites is under discussion).
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 03-04-2012 17:25
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I think it is Otites nebulosa.
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| pat_der2003 |
Posted on 03-04-2012 18:07
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Member Location: Paris area, France Posts: 1731 Joined: 20.08.07 |
Well, thanks a lot to all of you !!  Stephane, I had a look on the web and found this page ! Could we assume that Dorycera sp and Otites nebulosa are somewhat synonyms ? Edited by Paul Beuk on 03-04-2012 19:55 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 03-04-2012 19:56
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I guess it would be better to say that some species of Dorycera resemble some species of Otites closer than they resemble other species of Dorycera, at least in some aspects.
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| pat_der2003 |
Posted on 03-04-2012 23:56
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Member Location: Paris area, France Posts: 1731 Joined: 20.08.07 |
Thank you Paul ! So, Paul, Stephane [and all of you !!  ] is it hasardeous to go to Genus level for this particular one ? Or shall I conserve Otites nebulosa as the true Id (in a moving matter) or at least with a cf. ?Thanks in advance !! |
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