Gallery Links
Users Online
· Guests Online: 14

· Members Online: 0

· Total Members: 5,036
· Newest Member: Elena_Kuzmina
Forum Threads
Theme Switcher
Switch to:
Last Seen Users
· weia< 5 mins
· Jan Maca< 5 mins
· Ira Orlicek00:27:57
· Carnifex00:29:48
· blaauw700:32:51
· RamiP00:50:28
· eklans00:52:10
· Andrew Whitt...00:55:37
· Tony Irwin00:59:22
· Auratus02:28:37
Latest Photo Additions
View Thread
Diptera.info :: Family forums :: Syrphidae
Who is here? 1 guest(s)
 Print Thread
Eristalis intricaria
crex
#1 Print Post
Posted on 10-12-2006 10:12
User Avatar

Member

Location: Sweden
Posts: 1996
Joined: 22.05.06

From midwest Sweden 2001-JUL-19. At first glimpse I thought these were the same fly, but it wasn't. Perhaps it is female and male of the same species ... like Eristalis intricaria?
crex attached the following image:


[108.09Kb]
Edited by crex on 10-12-2006 12:17
 
crex
#2 Print Post
Posted on 10-12-2006 10:13
User Avatar

Member

Location: Sweden
Posts: 1996
Joined: 22.05.06

The other photo taken at the same occasion.
crex attached the following image:


[91.77Kb]
 
Lukasz Mielczarek
#3 Print Post
Posted on 10-12-2006 11:12
User Avatar

Member

Location: Poland, Krakow
Posts: 498
Joined: 27.09.06

It is Eristalis intricaria. Similar species is the Eristalis oestracea but he have white scutelum and diferent tars 3 (are red) .
 
Tony Irwin
#4 Print Post
Posted on 10-12-2006 11:14
User Avatar

Member

Location: Norwich, England
Posts: 7285
Joined: 19.11.04

Correct. Female above male below. Eristalis intricarius (note genus name is male gender)
Tony
----------
Tony Irwin
 
Lukasz Mielczarek
#5 Print Post
Posted on 10-12-2006 11:23
User Avatar

Member

Location: Poland, Krakow
Posts: 498
Joined: 27.09.06

Actually Eristalis intricaria.Wink
http://www.syrphidae.com/checklist.php?country=GB
 
crex
#6 Print Post
Posted on 10-12-2006 11:57
User Avatar

Member

Location: Sweden
Posts: 1996
Joined: 22.05.06

Tony Irwin wrote:
Correct. Female above male below. Eristalis intricarius (note genus name is male gender)


Thank you Tony and Mielczarek. The choice of names seems to be very personal. I wish there where a standard all could agree on. In Fauna Europaea it says Eristalis intricaria. Until the diptera is added to the Swedish Report System for Invertebrates I can't say what it will be named here in the cold dark north ...
 
Tony Irwin
#7 Print Post
Posted on 10-12-2006 12:38
User Avatar

Member

Location: Norwich, England
Posts: 7285
Joined: 19.11.04

Mmmm... I have to say that I tend to follow the British Check List as on the Diptera Forum website. http://www.dipter..._intro.php
As a rule, Peter Chandler is very fussy about getting things right. It isn't a matter of personal taste. There are rules which should be followed so that we can all use the same names, and end up with a stable, agreed list.
Tony
----------
Tony Irwin
 
crex
#8 Print Post
Posted on 10-12-2006 13:45
User Avatar

Member

Location: Sweden
Posts: 1996
Joined: 22.05.06

Tony Irwin wrote:
Mmmm... I have to say that I tend to follow the British Check List as on the Diptera Forum website. http://www.dipter..._intro.php
As a rule, Peter Chandler is very fussy about getting things right. It isn't a matter of personal taste. There are rules which should be followed so that we can all use the same names, and end up with a stable, agreed list.


I didn't mean that everyone could make their own names up, and certainly not that you made a mistake, but it's a fact that not all follow the same standard. I'm not getting into a debate about this. I think often there are a choice of preserving an old faulty name or choosing a new proper one that might add to the confusion, because when you change a name there are going to be two names for the same species in literature etc ... When I report my findings I have to use the name that is used in Sweden to be able to report it at all.
 
Jump to Forum:
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Eristalis arbustorum? E. tenax Syrphidae 6 04-06-2025 21:21
Eristalis sp, male? --> E. pertinax, male Syrphidae 4 21-04-2025 19:07
Eristalis, maybe nemorum? Syrphidae 2 18-04-2025 21:15
Syrphidae=>Eristalis tenax (female) Syrphidae 5 15-03-2025 14:35
Eristalis tenax? --> Eristalis pertinax female Syrphidae 4 08-02-2025 14:44
Date and time
24 June 2025 09:07
Login
Username

Password



Not a member yet?
Click here to register.

Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Temporary email?
Due to fact this site has functionality making use of your email address, any registration using a temporary email address will be rejected.

Paul
Donate
Please, help to make
Diptera.info
possible and enable
further improvements!
Latest Articles
Syrph the Net
Those who want to have access to the Syrph the Net database need to sign the
License Agreement -
Click to Download


Public files of Syrph the Net can be downloaded HERE

Last updated: 25.08.2011
Shoutbox
You must login to post a message.

23.06.25 18:10
If you have some spare money, there is a copy (together with keys to pupae and larvae) for sale by Hermann L. Strack, Loguivy Plougras, France

23.06.25 11:18
Appreciate it, Tony Irwin! I got the hint to use the key next to Langton and Pinder key for females of Chironomidae. So no specific queries, except the keys... I will keep this on my list and hope th

19.06.25 15:33
I have the hard copy book, if you have any specific queries, but I'm not scanning the 500+ pages!

02.06.25 18:26
Anyone has "Chironomidae of the Holarctic region. Keys and diagnoses. Part 3. Adult Males Entomologica Scandinavica Supplement 34"? smolwaarneming@gma
il.com

28.05.25 20:57
I have Russian Coenosia. nikita6510@ya.ru

28.05.25 12:25
Is someone able to share with me "A key to the Russian species of the genus Coenosia"?

08.05.25 18:22
I have

03.05.25 08:35
Does someone has a scan of Nartshuk E.P. 2003. Key to families of Diptera (Insecta) of the fauna of Russian and adjacent countries. Proceedings of the Zoological Institute Vol. 294: 1-252 for me?

10.03.25 18:02
We are looking for a new webmaster https://diptera.in
fo/forum/viewthrea
d.php?thread_id=11
5023&rowstart=20

04.03.25 17:10
Please use the link posted below to remember and honour Paul, if you wish

Render time: 4.66 seconds | 228,952,980 unique visits