Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Tipulidae Tipula holoptera?> paludosa
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| blowave |
Posted on 22-01-2012 14:25
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 Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Hello, I spent hours trying to key these, in the end it seems to be Tipula (Savtshenkia) holoptera. Is that correct, or have I gone terribly wrong? I can't find any photos to compare. 27th September 2011 on my door at night, near Lincoln UK. I have photos of both male and female separately from other days which I'm sure are the same species. The female was on one occasion laying her eggs in a semi-shaded place on my meadow grass 'lawn' which is sandy, poor and acidic. I have close up photos of the male genital from the side and back, and the female from the side. I am posting the female side view as well, I can also post the male if required. Janet blowave attached the following image:  [172.4Kb] Edited by blowave on 23-01-2012 22:21 http://cubits.org... |
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| blowave |
Posted on 22-01-2012 14:26
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| blowave |
Posted on 22-01-2012 14:26
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| blowave |
Posted on 22-01-2012 14:27
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| blowave |
Posted on 22-01-2012 14:28
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| blowave |
Posted on 22-01-2012 14:28
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Male wing
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| blowave |
Posted on 22-01-2012 14:34
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
A female from 18th September which looks the same ..
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| blowave |
Posted on 22-01-2012 14:35
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
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| blowave |
Posted on 22-01-2012 14:39
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Male thorax and head
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| blowave |
Posted on 22-01-2012 15:02
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
I thought I may as well post the male which I got on 9th September, I got good shots of the tail end and it has to be the same species..
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| blowave |
Posted on 22-01-2012 15:03
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Posted on 22-01-2012 15:04
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| blowave |
Posted on 22-01-2012 15:05
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| clovis |
Posted on 23-01-2012 19:44
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 940 Joined: 08.06.10 |
I think you should look in the Tipula subgenus. |
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| blowave |
Posted on 23-01-2012 20:27
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
clovis wrote: I think you should look in the Tipula subgenus. Thanks for the tip clovis, I think I tried that but couldn't make it work.  I've emailed Pjotr Oosterbroek to see if he can help. http://cubits.org... |
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| blowave |
Posted on 23-01-2012 22:19
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Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07 |
Pjotr is quite sure it's Tipula (Tipula) paludosa, you can see 14 antennal segments although the last one is tiny.
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