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Phoridae --- oppss Hybotidae!, and now: Ulidiidae (not Stratiomyidae) bubbling..
jorgemotalmeida	#1 Posted on 21-11-2006 16:49
Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06	Once again, hi * locality - Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL * date - 8.11.2006 * size - 2 mm (very small fly) * habitat - farm * substrate - orange fruit tree Phoridae fly? .. not sure! jorgemotalmeida attached the following image: [184.23Kb] Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 21-11-2006 18:00


jorgemotalmeida	#2 Posted on 21-11-2006 16:50
Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06	another view.. jorgemotalmeida attached the following image: [188.53Kb]


Paul Beuk	#3 Posted on 21-11-2006 16:52
Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04	Let's make it Hybotidae: Platypalpus sp. Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info


jorgemotalmeida	#4 Posted on 21-11-2006 16:53
Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06	to see othe fly: stratiomyidae ... * locality - Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL * date - 27.10.2006 * size - 6 mm (medium fly) * habitat - open land * substrate - above grapefruit which genus? the title could be something like this "where to has gone the thief??? There, my Sir!" this fly dances a lot with first legs, that is a spectacle to see this show. to see it larger : http://www.flickr...654&size=l Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 21-11-2006 16:56


jorgemotalmeida	#5 Posted on 21-11-2006 16:54
Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06	Paul Beuk wrote: Let's make it Hybotidae: Platypalpus sp. hmm... why? misleading again.


jorgemotalmeida	#6 Posted on 21-11-2006 16:59
Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06	and another view of last fly... jorgemotalmeida attached the following image: [190.03Kb]


crex	#7 Posted on 21-11-2006 17:07
Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06	Dear Jorge - One species per thread Many flies in Portugal this time of the year it seems


jorgemotalmeida	#8 Posted on 21-11-2006 17:10
Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06	crex wrote: Dear Jorge - One species per thread Many flies in Portugal this time of the year it seems it is boring to see so many threads with my name. so i tried this time to put more one specie. ok. i know. About flies, yes, here in this epoch there were some interesting flies. No snow for here , but still rain a lot. Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 21-11-2006 17:29


jorgemotalmeida	#9 Posted on 21-11-2006 17:28
Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06	other... but fly bubbling... jorgemotalmeida attached the following image: [149.66Kb]


Tony Irwin	#10 Posted on 21-11-2006 17:56
Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7327 Joined: 19.11.04	Hi Jorge This pretty "stratiomyiid" is actually Physiphora alceae (Ulidiidae). The wing venation is wrong for Stratiomyiidae. The wing venation is also how to separate Hybotidae from Phoridae - but there are other, more easily seen characters. As a rule, the hind legs of Phoridae have very large femora. In Platypalpus it is the middle femora which are enlarged. Also most phorids have strong reclinate orbital bristles, giving them a characteristic head profile. So far there are only three phorid pictures in the gallery, but there are lots in the forum posts, so it's worth doing a search to familiarise yourself with them. Tony ---------- Tony Irwin


jorgemotalmeida	#11 Posted on 21-11-2006 17:59
Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06	Tony Irwin wrote: Hi Jorge This pretty "stratiomyiid" is actually Physiphora alceae (Ulidiidae). The wing venation is wrong for Stratiomyiidae. The wing venation is also how to separate Hybotidae from Phoridae - but there are other, more easily seen characters. As a rule, the hind legs of Phoridae have very large femora. In Platypalpus it is the middle femora which are enlarged. Also most phorids have strong reclinate orbital bristles, giving them a characteristic head profile. So far there are only three phorid pictures in the gallery, but there are lots in the forum posts, so it's worth doing a search to familiarise yourself with them. i?m still learning. Thanks Tony. I will see gallery, with more care. It tooks some more time to familiarize with all these families. I know some guys took some time to grasp it with good knowledge. And even so. To wrong is "uman" Thank you.