Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Platypalpus cursitans
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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 28-11-2011 21:25
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Can this Platypalpus fly be named...? Found 10-5-2010 in Zeist, Holland hedy2411 attached the following image:  [65.14Kb] Edited by hedy2411 on 29-11-2011 16:01 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 28-11-2011 22:14
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Might be P. cothurnatus...
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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 28-11-2011 22:25
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Member Location: Zeist, Holland Posts: 5242 Joined: 20.11.09 |
Nice, most of my Platypalpus flies are spec.s... Thanks for your reaction Paul! Regards, Hedy |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 28-11-2011 22:32
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
But the antennae are yellow. And the spurs seems to be quite sharp and not blunt.
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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 28-11-2011 22:34
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Member Location: Zeist, Holland Posts: 5242 Joined: 20.11.09 |
...so it is no P. cothurnatus.... Regards, Hedy |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 28-11-2011 22:36
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
But a very nice photo any way
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 28-11-2011 22:37
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Member Location: Zeist, Holland Posts: 5242 Joined: 20.11.09 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 29-11-2011 11:36
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Sorry, I was digging up the name from my memory and it did not serve me well. I meant P. cursitans.
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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 29-11-2011 16:00
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Member Location: Zeist, Holland Posts: 5242 Joined: 20.11.09 |
Nice to have a name, thanks again for your reaction Paul! Regards, Hedy |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 29-11-2011 18:34
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
Are you sure, Paul? Does cursitans not have a polished black abdomen grey dusting at sides? I do not see any thing of the black polish. Furthermore I have the impression that the middle femur is relatively too thick; in cursitans the middle femur is a bit thicker than the fore femur, while the specimen of the photo has much thicker middle femora. But again, I dare not say what it is. I find Platypalpus so difficult. Or am I wrong, Paul?
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 29-11-2011 18:50
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
If you put a knife on my throat I'd rather say it is T. candicans
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 29-11-2011 19:02
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I could not compare specimens. I know one has a somewhat darkened costa near the tip of the wing. That's the case here. So, if that is candicans, then so is this species.
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 29-11-2011 19:02
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
BTW: I have not seen this character mentioned in keys or descriptions, I think.
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 29-11-2011 19:05
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
rvanderweele wrote: The abdomen has large greyish side-markings but I can also see the glossy median part.
I do not see any thing of the black polish Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 29-11-2011 19:11
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
But the cursitans I have here have relatively small greyish side markings (the problem is with "relatively", but also candicans has often the abdomen dorsally polished, I know. Please, remove the knife! ;-) ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 29-11-2011 19:48
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
I may... later...
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| rvanderweele |
Posted on 29-11-2011 19:56
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Member Location: Leiden, the Netherlands Posts: 1988 Joined: 01.11.06 |
what a friend.....;-)
ruud van der weele rvanderweele@gmail.com |
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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 01-12-2011 22:12
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Member Location: Zeist, Holland Posts: 5242 Joined: 20.11.09 |
...can it help if I add this picture...
hedy2411 attached the following image:  [61.31Kb] Edited by hedy2411 on 01-12-2011 22:13 |
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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 01-12-2011 22:15
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Member Location: Zeist, Holland Posts: 5242 Joined: 20.11.09 |
...this picture is just for fun... as it looks to us as we are struggling to find it's name... 
hedy2411 attached the following image:  [55.54Kb] |
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