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 Tachinid for ID, C Spain --> Pales sp.
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 11-11-2011 07:36
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 Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Taken in the mountains of Madrid on the 18th August 2011. In mixed woodland near flowery meadows. I am not 100% sure it is Tachinid. Some look too close to Sarcophagidae to me  Those extremely hairy eyes have me puzzled. Help me, please!
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 11-11-2011 07:36
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
A dorsal view.
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 11-11-2011 11:07
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
It's definitely a tachinid - I believe hairy eyes are very rare (absent?) in sarcophagids and the thorax is not striped in the same way as in the Sarcophagini  That said, I am not 100% sure what it is ... the parafacial area is very wide so possible something in the Goniini but I'd need a specimen to key through to be able to take it to genus
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 11-11-2011 14:28
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Thanks a bunch for your reply, Chris! Knowing it is indeed a Tachinid makes me very happy  I am hopeless with Sarcophagidae At least I can try to see the chances with Spanish Goniini, instead of trying to track it down in the wrong family    Best Piluca |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 12-11-2011 19:19
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19310 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It's a female Pales |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 12-11-2011 19:26
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
WOW!! Thanks again, Theo!! I have checked and there are only 3 species in Spain: - pavida - processioneae - pumicata No idea if there is a chance to know the species. But I am pretty happy knowing the genus
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 12-11-2011 19:28 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 13-11-2011 09:40
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19310 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It is not pumicata and pavida and processioneae are extremely similar in the female sex. That is why ... .Pales without species Theo |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 13-11-2011 17:13
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Very nice fly - I have never seen such a grey Pales ... must be interesting ... another one that got away!
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 13-11-2011 19:35
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Thanks, Theo!! Didn't expect to get the species, it was just in case... But it is great to know why it is not possible to get it. Very happy with my Pales sp. though! Chris, I am afraid this isn't the only Pales that got away. Have a look at my new thread I think that one might be a Pales too.http://www.diptera.info/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=43184 |
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