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Termite and wasp?????
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jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 12-11-2006 20:22
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Hi fly (and now HYM)forum ![]() I took this one in Serra da Estrela not so far from Seia. This was took near the famous "Cabe?a da Velha". The one white is ISOPTERA - termite. But the other one intrigued me. I think that is a wasp because antenna doesn?t seem from an ant, and the eyes, and head format remember me more a wasp than an ant. what do you think? The termite has about 4 mm and wasp about 1 mm. Indeed, I just realize that wasp in photo!!!!! not there???!!!! Please see this fantastic duo. ![]() ![]() of course, we will need to see it bigger: http://www.flickr...509&size=l Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 12-11-2006 20:24 |
cthirion |
Posted on 12-11-2006 22:06
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
Proctotrupoidea female not winged....first attempt!![]() cthirion |
Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 12-11-2006 23:13
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![]() Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Hmmm, My vote would go for Ceraphronoidea, so the choice is between Ceraphronidae or Megaspilidae. If I would have to put money on it, I'd vote for Ceraphronidae! ![]() Greetings, Gerard Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 13-11-2006 01:34
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Gerard Pennards wrote: Hmmm, My vote would go for Ceraphronoidea, so the choice is between Ceraphronidae or Megaspilidae. If I would have to put money on it, I'd vote for Ceraphronidae! ![]() Greetings, Gerard why you think this wasp can be Ceraphronoidea? which characters in photo told you that coud be that family? Thank you! Perhaps it would help to see a much bigger size. Take a look on this size: http://www.flickr...630&size=o Proctoss... appears! ![]() I wish to know which can be this termite too. The photo needs total ID, at least, genus level. ![]() Thank you. Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 13-11-2006 02:05 |
Paul Beuk |
Posted on 13-11-2006 08:46
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Hmm, I would not be surpised if it was Scelionidae either...
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jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 13-11-2006 11:38
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Proctotrupoidea, Ceraphronoidea, Scelionidae .... so many guess.. it is not easy. ![]() Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 13-11-2006 13:51 |
jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 14-11-2006 11:22
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![]() Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
please... who can help on ID of this wasp? |
Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 14-11-2006 15:38
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![]() Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Well Jorge, As you see (by the answers given so far) the problem is that on the picture there are not enough details visible to put a name on it with certainty. Our guesses go into the same direction, because Proctotrupoidea, Ceraphronoidea and Scelionidae are close relatives within Hymenoptera. People like me see the picture and a name pops up in the head, but only based on the general appearence, not based on clear characters in the picture. It will be hard to come to a definite conclusion if the specimen is not available! ![]() Greetings, Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 14-11-2006 16:05
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![]() Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Hi ok. I see. And if we advance with Dryinidae family? No, I don?t have the specimen. ![]() Perhaps Proctoss can give us some clues! ![]() |
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