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 Ephydridae larva? North Carolina, USA
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| dguzman58 |
Posted on 23-09-2011 20:25
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Member Location: Raleigh, NC USA Posts: 128 Joined: 06.07.11 |
I posted an image of this organism before. They are back this year. Here is another image. Can someone ID?
dguzman58 attached the following image:  [127.13Kb] Edited by dguzman58 on 11-11-2011 17:22 |
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| dguzman58 |
Posted on 23-09-2011 20:26
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Member Location: Raleigh, NC USA Posts: 128 Joined: 06.07.11 |
by the way, not the mosquito larvae. The mosquito larvae provide a size reference. I have posted more images in the following link, with additional notes... http://www.flickr.com/photos/entomopixel/6171754483/ here is 1 more image showing ventral prolegs, and lateral view of mouth section. This was taken under a compound microscope. dguzman58 attached the following image:  [46.35Kb] Edited by dguzman58 on 11-11-2011 17:17 |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 24-09-2011 08:08
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Very nice! 
Sincerely yours Sara |
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| dguzman58 |
Posted on 08-11-2011 18:26
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Member Location: Raleigh, NC USA Posts: 128 Joined: 06.07.11 |
A US Dipterist has ID this to Ephydridae. Another image showing mouth area papillae? dguzman58 attached the following image:  [21.61Kb] Edited by dguzman58 on 11-11-2011 17:19 |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 09-11-2011 23:21
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 6088 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Brilliant! - I'm always prepared to believe that wierd-looking larvae are ephydrids, but I'm intrigued to know which genus was suggested. Did the US dipterist say which, or can you put me in touch with him/her, please?
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| dguzman58 |
Posted on 11-11-2011 04:10
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Member Location: Raleigh, NC USA Posts: 128 Joined: 06.07.11 |
The ID was made by Gregory W Courtney gwcourt@iastate.edu<gwcourt@iastate.edu>; No ID to genus was given, We will eventually figure this one out.. Edited by dguzman58 on 11-11-2011 04:11 |
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| Cranefly |
Posted on 11-11-2011 07:13
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 577 Joined: 17.09.08 |
It is intersting to know where (what region) was it collected? Are there some posterior appendages or some ventral structures except these 2 anal papillae? the water - very salt or fresh? is it possible to see lateral view? 
Edited by Cranefly on 11-11-2011 07:16 |
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| Cranefly |
Posted on 11-11-2011 07:26
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 577 Joined: 17.09.08 |
I looked through the previous images - if it is Nearctic or Hawaiian, or Neotropical if it is from very salt water try to check Ephydra gracilis Packard (possibly some young - not mature age) 
Edited by Cranefly on 11-11-2011 07:26 |
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| dguzman58 |
Posted on 11-11-2011 17:06
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Member Location: Raleigh, NC USA Posts: 128 Joined: 06.07.11 |
These were found in Raleigh, NC USA. Fresh but stagnant water. Water had been sitting on a container for several weeks. There are some type of projections in the mouth region. There are prolegs on ventral side. Appear to have 6 to 7 prolegs. I added some images in above comments. Edited by dguzman58 on 12-11-2011 14:23 |
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| Cranefly |
Posted on 12-11-2011 08:15
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 577 Joined: 17.09.08 |
I looked through Ephydridae literature which I have. The only known species with extracted papillae Ephydra gracilis (=E.cinerea), salt waters. However Ephydra larvae have 3(4) branches of anterior spiracles. We see here at least 6. Some larvae of Parydra and Cirrula have 6 branches, but Parydra has no well developed hooks on ventral creeping welts which I see here. So among known larvae we can think about Cirrula only, but all of them are in salt water and nobody has written about extracted anal papillae in Cirrula. I have read that papillae may be extracted more or less if the salinity of water changes but never observed this myself in Ephydridae. So, I am sorry, but can not determine this larvae better than it is Ephydridae and subfamily Ephydrinae.  |
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| dguzman58 |
Posted on 12-11-2011 14:21
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Member Location: Raleigh, NC USA Posts: 128 Joined: 06.07.11 |
The water where I found these was pretty nasty, very bad smell. As you can see however, mosquito larvae were also able to breed in this water. I also saw Chironomid larvae. Thank you so much for your comments. Next year I will collect some samples. |
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| John Carr |
Posted on 12-11-2011 16:11
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 Member Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 7871 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Merritt and Cummins, Aquatic Insects of North America, has a key to the common genera of Ephydridae. |
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| dguzman58 |
Posted on 12-11-2011 17:24
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Member Location: Raleigh, NC USA Posts: 128 Joined: 06.07.11 |
Thanks John! These are hard to come by... I do not have a copy. I'll have to take a trip to the Entomology Dept at NCSU. |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 13-11-2011 22:39
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 6088 Joined: 19.11.04 |
The Brachydeutera adult in the other thread looks very freshly emerged, so I'm inclined to this this may be its larva - but it's not quite like any Brachydeutera larvae I've seen figured. Well worth preserving some adults and larvae (and puparia if you can find them).
Edited by Tony Irwin on 13-11-2011 22:40 Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| dguzman58 |
Posted on 14-11-2011 04:20
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Member Location: Raleigh, NC USA Posts: 128 Joined: 06.07.11 |
yes! IT is in my list of projects for 2012. They are all gone for this year. Thanks for your input! |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 13-03-2020 15:58
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 Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 410 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Hi, I found this larvae very similar to these in a water container in Badalona (near Barcelona, Spain, autumn 2019): https://www.dropb...a.mp4?dl=0 Does anybody have the clue to what it was ? Edited by rafael_carbonell on 13-03-2020 16:00 |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 13-03-2020 17:46
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 6088 Joined: 19.11.04 |
If you see them again this summer, could you collect some and try to rear them? And keep a couple in ethanol - it should be possible to extract DNA and identify them that way.
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 13-03-2020 18:58
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 410 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Yes, I will tell them Thanks |
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