Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Black Tachinid => Clytiomya
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| Marion Friedrich |
Posted on 22-09-2011 18:47
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Member Location: Saxony, Germany Posts: 1192 Joined: 07.10.09 |
Hello, Am I right with Clytiomya? Is species ID possible? Thanks, Marion (Greece, Island Corfu, Sept. 2011) Marion Friedrich attached the following image:  [116.51Kb] Edited by Marion Friedrich on 23-09-2011 19:01 |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 22-09-2011 18:50
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Cistogaster globosa (female)  Well, probably globosa but in Greece there might be other Cistogaster - I don't know
Edited by ChrisR on 22-09-2011 18:52 Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Marion Friedrich |
Posted on 22-09-2011 19:38
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Member Location: Saxony, Germany Posts: 1192 Joined: 07.10.09 |
Thank you, Chris. Cistogaster globosa was my first guess, because I started to search in the gallery from the beginning, but the wing veining of the specimen in the gallery looks different. So, I continued to search and found the Clytiomya wings better matching. ????? Marion |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 22-09-2011 19:42
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3939 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Right - Cistogaster globosa should have petiolate vein-m! |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 22-09-2011 19:51
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Hmm, you certainly point out a problem with the wing veins so maybe Theo should comment ... it's a bit out of my normal range But I doubt that it is Clytiomya because they are heavily dusted. Do you have any more angles, in case we are being confused by lighting or the angle?
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Marion Friedrich |
Posted on 22-09-2011 20:50
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Member Location: Saxony, Germany Posts: 1192 Joined: 07.10.09 |
Unfortunately, I do not have other angles. The fly was a very fast one and all pictures are photographed from above. Marion Marion Friedrich attached the following image:  [133.02Kb] |
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| Marion Friedrich |
Posted on 23-09-2011 06:53
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Member Location: Saxony, Germany Posts: 1192 Joined: 07.10.09 |
At the same place and flowers I took photos from the flies of this unanswered threat: http://www.dipter...d_id=41962 For Greece I found Eliozeta helluo (Fabricius 1805) Eliozeta pellucens (Fallen 1820) but they are much more colored, and the following 4 species Clytiomya continua (Panzer 1798) Clytiomya dupuisi Kugler 1971 Clytiomya mesnili Kugler 1968 Clytiomya sola (Rondani 1861) Probably the fly belongs to another genus, but which one? Marion Edited by ChrisR on 23-09-2011 09:32 |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 23-09-2011 09:36
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
The other photo is definitely an Eliozeta/Clytiomya but dusted and coloured typically for those genera. I have never seen either genus look like this shiny, black specimen though 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Liekele Sijstermans |
Posted on 23-09-2011 11:17
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Member Location: Geldermalsen Netherlands Posts: 305 Joined: 16.04.05 |
I have seen this species - or at least similar specimens - before from Italy. It is a Clytiomya close to C. sola and very likely not yet described. Liekele |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 23-09-2011 12:21
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
... and no specimen taken?! Doh!! 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Marion Friedrich |
Posted on 23-09-2011 18:59
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Member Location: Saxony, Germany Posts: 1192 Joined: 07.10.09 |
Thank you all for the contributions to this thread. Marion Edited by Marion Friedrich on 23-09-2011 19:18 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 23-09-2011 19:53
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Collect more for us, Liekele. |
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