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 Choerades cf fulva
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| Claude54 |
Posted on 20-09-2011 21:34
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Member Location: Guidonia - Rome - Italy Posts: 125 Joined: 30.09.10 |
Found in a oak forest - Mentana near Rome - Italy on 08.07.2011. Thanks
Claude54 attached the following image:  [88.36Kb] Edited by Claude54 on 21-09-2011 18:41 |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 20-09-2011 22:30
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 Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2225 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Choerades cf fuliginosa(?)
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| Claude54 |
Posted on 21-09-2011 16:35
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Member Location: Guidonia - Rome - Italy Posts: 125 Joined: 30.09.10 |
Thanks for your reply, unfortunately fuliginosa is not present in the check list of the Italian fauna. The following are the only possible for the area where I found the speciment: Choerades fimbriata (Meigen, 1820) (N, S) Choerades fulva (Meigen, 1804) (N, S) Choerades gilva (Linnaeus, 1758) (N, S) Choerades ignea (Meigen, 1820) (N, S) Choerades marginata (Linnaeus, 1758) (N, S) So I think it is better for this speciment : Choerades sp. Regards Claudio |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 21-09-2011 17:41
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2225 Joined: 18.05.10 |
A closer look learns that mentioned C. fuliginosa should hav dense hair on scutum, this one does not. But, by default, you can rule out C. gilva, ignea, marginata. Leaving C. fimbriata and fulva. I am pretty sure it is a female and if so.....C. cf fulva
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| Claude54 |
Posted on 21-09-2011 18:39
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Member Location: Guidonia - Rome - Italy Posts: 125 Joined: 30.09.10 |
Great Reinoud, . ThanksClaudio |
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| Dysmachus |
Posted on 25-09-2011 15:30
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 Member Location: Germany Posts: 321 Joined: 15.03.06 |
It's Choerades fuliginosa, have a look on http://www.robber...des.html#4. |
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| Claude54 |
Posted on 26-09-2011 18:54
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Member Location: Guidonia - Rome - Italy Posts: 125 Joined: 30.09.10 |
Thanks Dysmachus but I checked also the Fauna Europea about the distribution of Choerades fuliginosa. It is not present in Italy. Regards Claudio |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 26-09-2011 20:45
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2225 Joined: 18.05.10 |
You probably have to add C. fuliginosa to to the Italian checklist.... If it is indeed C. fuliginosa, then it seems typical for that species that the antennae are standing far apart......or is it a coincidence.....
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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