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 Norwegian crane fly - Tipulidae?
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| Leif G |
Posted on 27-06-2011 21:11
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Member Location: Posts: 263 Joined: 26.03.11 |
Photographed in coastal spruce forest, South west Norway, June 25th.
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| clovis |
Posted on 29-06-2011 20:04
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 940 Joined: 08.06.10 |
It has some similarity with T variipennis to me, but a zoom of the nervation in the stigma area and of the antennas could be good arguments to prove this fealing  |
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| Leif G |
Posted on 29-06-2011 20:25
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Member Location: Posts: 263 Joined: 26.03.11 |
Thank you for helping me on this one. I made a couple of full size crops of the details you asked for. Unfortunately, due to dark conditions in the forest, I had to go for rather high ISO, so the pictures are not too good. Leif Leif G attached the following image:  [42.57Kb] |
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| Leif G |
Posted on 29-06-2011 20:25
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Member Location: Posts: 263 Joined: 26.03.11 |
Antennas:
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| clovis |
Posted on 30-06-2011 11:29
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 940 Joined: 08.06.10 |
Well, it's not Tipula variipennis Then i don't know, and i can't ID female! |
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| Leif G |
Posted on 30-06-2011 15:55
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Member Location: Posts: 263 Joined: 26.03.11 |
Thanks very much for trying. Leif |
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| JSalmela |
Posted on 12-07-2011 07:36
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Member Location: Finland Posts: 40 Joined: 11.07.11 |
Well, I think this is T. (P.) varipennis. Note the short and stout legs and short wings (do not extend beyond tip of abdomen). -Jukka Salmela |
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| clovis |
Posted on 12-07-2011 13:44
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 940 Joined: 08.06.10 |
Well, the habitus make me really think about T varipennis, but in my doc one of the first characteristic it has in the key is a incomplete R2, witch does not extend to the costal (look here) |
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| Leif G |
Posted on 13-07-2011 13:25
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Member Location: Posts: 263 Joined: 26.03.11 |
Thanks, both of you, for the effort on trying to identify this Tipula. Leif |
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| JSalmela |
Posted on 14-07-2011 05:44
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Member Location: Finland Posts: 40 Joined: 11.07.11 |
clovis wrote: Well, the habitus make me really think about T varipennis, but in my doc one of the first characteristic it has in the key is a incomplete R2, witch does not extend to the costal (look here) Stubb writes (Test key for Tipula, p 13): "In some species (pseudovariipennis, submarmorata and varipennis) vein R2 is usually incomplete, not reaching the wing margin, but examples with this vein complete make the character unreliable." Thus, I think this specimen is varipennis. Best wishes, Jukka |
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| Leif G |
Posted on 14-07-2011 18:19
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Member Location: Posts: 263 Joined: 26.03.11 |
And finally; Thanks again for all the help on this crane fly. Nice to get it named, at last. Leif |
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| clovis |
Posted on 15-07-2011 17:47
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Member Location: North France, lille Posts: 940 Joined: 08.06.10 |
Thanks, i didn't know that  |
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| pjotr oosterbroek |
Posted on 09-08-2011 13:03
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Member Location: Amsterdam Posts: 88 Joined: 05.10.05 |
This is indeed the female of Tipula (Pterelachisus) varipennis Meigen, 1818. Attached is the photo of the male. See http://ip30.eti.uva.nl/ccw/ for more details on this species. Please allow usage of this picture for the CCW website (if so, please mail permission to p.oosterbroek@chello.nl). Thanks in advance. Pjotr |
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