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Oestroidea? Stackelbergomyia!
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 28-05-2011 10:15
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9561 Joined: 24.05.05 |
4mm, semi-desert near Aral sea, collected by K.Tomkovich
Nikita Vikhrev attached the following image: ![]() [97.94Kb] Edited by Nikita Vikhrev on 28-05-2011 20:53 Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| neprisikiski |
Posted on 28-05-2011 15:35
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Member Location: Lithuania Posts: 876 Joined: 23.02.09 |
Looks like a Stackelbergomyia sp., but I have never seen one
Erikas |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 28-05-2011 15:46
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Looks fascinating ... wish we had things like that around here ... well done!
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 28-05-2011 20:51
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9561 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Erikas, thank you! As you guess I have never seen this creature too. It fits the description completely. My wrong idea about Oestroidea seems pardonable: proboscis is very much reduced. During long time this fly was in a specially made family Stackelbergomyiidae. Now - Phasiinae (to my surprise). Chris, come Russia. Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 28-05-2011 21:01
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Wow ... a very odd phasiine indeed - I would not have guessed either.
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
| neprisikiski |
Posted on 28-05-2011 21:42
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Member Location: Lithuania Posts: 876 Joined: 23.02.09 |
Those narrow calyptrae reminds only representatives of Rhinophoridae, some of Phasiinae, Macquartia, but wing venation is very characteristic for this genus. Would be nice to the gallery!
Edited by neprisikiski on 28-05-2011 21:46 Erikas |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 28-05-2011 22:32
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9561 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Neither the image, nor the specimen are good, but of course the fly itselef is worth the Gallery. Done.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 29-05-2011 20:15
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9561 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Theo, could you comment the reasons of placing this creature in Phasiinae?
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Liekele Sijstermans |
Posted on 31-05-2011 14:54
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Member Location: Geldermalsen Netherlands Posts: 305 Joined: 16.04.05 |
Herting (1981) placed Stackelbergomyia in Tachinidae. He wrote: "Die Fliege findet wahrscheinlich in der Subfamilie Phasiinae, Tribus Catharosiini ihren richtigen Platz, denn sie besitzt die folgenden Merkmale: ... Calyptera klein ... Genitalien des männchens erinneren ebenfalls an die Catharosiini ... fast rudimentäre Rüssel ... und das teilweise membranöse Postscutellum finden sich auch bei Catharosia flavicornis ...". Liekele |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 31-05-2011 16:30
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9561 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you Liekele for this information. (The fly will probably be Phasiinae subfamily, tribe Catharosiini their proper place, because it has the following features: ... Calyptera small ... Of the male genitalia are also reminiscent of the Catharosiini ... almost rudimentary proboscis ... and partly membranous Postscutellum are also found in Catharosia flavicornis) Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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