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 black and shiny - Cheilosia or Pipiza (Syrphidae)?
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| Sundew |
Posted on 21-05-2011 00:37
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3939 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Hi, This medium-sized black fly I saw in a Berlin wood a week ago. It was too shy to allow for more and better photos. The peculiar wing venation made me think of Rhinophoridae, but I am very uncertain. Please help me with the family and perhaps a genus. Many thanks, Sundew Sundew attached the following image:  [152.54Kb] Edited by Sundew on 21-05-2011 23:06 |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 21-05-2011 08:06
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Looks more like Syrphidae to me 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 21-05-2011 11:34
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3939 Joined: 28.07.07 |
You are absolutely right, Chris! How could I overlook the vena spuria...  So it is something around Pipiza and thus hopeless. Thanks for putting me on the right way! |
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| Andre |
Posted on 21-05-2011 15:19
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
Cheilosia spec. |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 21-05-2011 22:58
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Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3939 Joined: 28.07.07 |
What a surprise, dear Andre! That genus puzzles me. I have lots of photographs of Cheilosias (several species), and none of them shows this triangular wing position. All of them carry their wings parallel, one covering the other. So I thought I knew what Cheilosias look like... The fly shown above had a very different appearance. However, I won't doubt your ID - many thanks! |
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