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 Ernestia puparum(female)? (Phryno vetula)
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| Mucha Fero |
Posted on 27-04-2011 08:29
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Ernestia puparum(female) is the correct name? Thank you very much. Slovak Republik, Terchová region on the Malá Fatra 21.04.2011.    I removed the fourth photograph was included by mistake. Thank you for understanding. Edited by Mucha Fero on 28-04-2011 07:52 |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 27-04-2011 09:25
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Noooooooooooooooooo - Ernestia must have a projecting mouth edge. Still, I am not confident to say much ... possibly Cyzenis? Also the last photo is a different species - possibly Bothria? 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Mucha Fero |
Posted on 27-04-2011 10:03
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ChrisR wrote: Noooooooooooooooooo - Ernestia must have a projecting mouth edge. Still, I am not confident to say much ... possibly Cyzenis? Also the last photo is a different species - possibly Bothria? Chris thank you very much. |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 27-04-2011 16:19
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Chris: How about Phryno vetula for the first couple. I agree with Bothria for the last. I have not seen a single P. vetula here this spring... I wonder if they have been outcompeted by Phorocera obscura, which is extremely abundant this year... I have also never seen as big Ph. obscura as here, the biggest are 14mm!! I tried hard to make them something rarer... Edited by Jaakko on 27-04-2011 16:19 |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 27-04-2011 16:58
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Yes - Phryno ... you know when you have said something and it just doesn't sound right ... but I couldn't remember the name of Phryno vetula ... grrr  Here Phryno, Cyzenis & Phorocera are fairly local - not common at all - I haven't seen either this year. Edited by ChrisR on 27-04-2011 16:59 Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Mucha Fero |
Posted on 28-04-2011 07:33
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Jaakko wrote: Chris: How about Phryno vetula for the first couple. I agree with Bothria for the last. I have not seen a single P. vetula here this spring... I wonder if they have been outcompeted by Phorocera obscura, which is extremely abundant this year... I have also never seen as big Ph. obscura as here, the biggest are 14mm!! I tried hard to make them something rarer... Jaakko thank you very much. |
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